Turbeaux
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We supported the mujihadeen in the 1980s order to defeat the Soviet Union.(We actually screwed up the game generally since we funneled funds through the ISI, who used the oppurtunity to support rebels that they favored... usually militant Islamists.). Afterwards, we forgot about Afghanistan all together and allowed the cards to fall where they may in the country.
Uhm…that’s what I figured you would say. In the 80s we did exactly what we should have done. That is use the Mujahideen as a proxy to bleed our enemy the Soviets dry and then leave as soon as our mission was accomplished, and since Muslims don’t attack us or wage jihad against us because of what we do, when we exited Afghanistan that was the correct thing to do.
Furthermore, the real reason Muslims attack us in case you haven’t heard yet is because of the universal mission of Islam, which is to make the world sovereign for Allah via the imposition of Islamic Sharia Law.
Thus, in 2001 had our leaders not been so blinded by multicultural political correctness, they wouldn’t have betrayed the trust of the America people by miserably failing to study the texts, tenants, and history of Islam, and instead of jumping into the middle of a civil war, they would have aided the losing side, in that case the Northern Alliance, so that the jihad between the Northern Alliance and the Taliban would have lasted and endured as long as possible, while at the same time they also would have targeted and obliterated OBL and AQ.
Muslims killing Muslims inside the Dar al Islam (domain of belief) is good for the Dar al Harb (domain of disbelief) and very bad for the Dar al Islam. Thus, we should have played them off on each other, then turned around and looked for other cracks and fissures within the camp of Islam to exploit to out advantage.
Btw, no where in Islam texts does it say anything about killing Americans. That is a radical interpretation of Islam...
To the contrary, if you study the Koran, the Hadith, and the Sira (the biography of Muhammad), which together make up the traditions and example of Muhammad, the holy prophet, known compositely as the Sunnah (example), you will find out that Muslims are commanded by the Koran, the Sunnah, and Muhammad, their uswa hasana, the perfect model, and excellent example for emulation, to kill the Mushrikun {unbelievers} wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush (Koran 9.5), and to Fight against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued (Koran 9.29).
I hate to rain on your political correct multicultural and apparently naive parade bud, but there is only one way that Islam is interpreted, and that is via the literal word of Allah as contained in the Koran, since the Koran unlike the other holy books – the bible and the torah – hasn’t been corrupted and is considered to be the direct immutable word of Allah as delivered by Allah’s final messenger, Muhammad, and as such is considered to be both perfect and also perfectly just.
Hence, according to Islam our laws are inferior and unjust since they are manmade and fallible by definition, whereas because Sharia emanates direct from Allah, it is thus perfectly just by definition.
Not to mention that this also makes Islam impossible to ever be reformed, because the instant anyone tries to change the interpretation of Islam, for instance to make it more civilized and compatible with Western society, it would be instantly recognized and that person would be declared a blasphemer, and blasphemy is an offense like apostasy in Islam that is punished by death.
No…I’m afraid that Islam unlike Christianity has not undergone a reformation and an enlightenment and is still practiced today the way it was when Muhammad, the uswa hasana, was still rampaging, pillaging, raping, and murdering his way across the Arabian Peninsula slaughtering and killing kafirs almost 1400 years ago.
This was never and will never be a war against Islam. The people we have put in power, Karzai and the new Afghan government, are muslims.
It is and always has been only about Islam and the sooner you realize and learn that the better off you will be. You could start off by studying the texts, tenants, and history of Islam, the institutions of jihad, and the institutions of dhimmitude.
With regard to Karzai, he is a secular Muslim, as not maintaining your Muslim identity in that part of the world is a sure way to commit suicide. You do have a whole lot of learning to do.