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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Sure you are.

    I remember the celebrations you people had commemorating the 3000th dead soldier in Iraq, and then the 4000th.

    But I bet you don't say a ****in' word about the soldiers "Don't Want No Victory" Obama gets killed.
    Nobody ever "celebrated" the death of a serviceman. As usual you are so far off the fringe your comments cannot be taken seriously.

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Sounds to me like the Messiah is afraid of use a manly word like "victory", and he wants to have americans fight and die for no victory.
    this is not a freaking game, if you wan't "victories" and "manly words" go back to your Halo mission, the Commander is calling you.

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    this is not a freaking game, if you wan't "victories" and "manly words" go back to your Halo mission, the Commander is calling you.
    When my nation puts men in the field where they can be shot at, you can bet your sorry liberal whiny ass that I want the term "victory" defined and plans in place to secure that victory with the least possible risk to my side.

    I just love the way whiny ass liberals who've never served in the military want to avoid the word "victory" merely because it's making their messiah look foolish.

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    this is not a freaking game, if you wan't "victories" and "manly words" go back to your Halo mission, the Commander is calling you.
    No, this is war.
    And in war, you do everything you can do to win, as quickly as you can.
    If you arent willing to do everything you can do to win, then you get out.
    Anything else causes unnecessary loss of life and property.
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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    this is not a freaking game, if you wan't "victories" and "manly words" go back to your Halo mission, the Commander is calling you.



    So can you please tell us, what "non-victory" is and what it entails?
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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    No, this is war.
    And in war, you do everything you can do to win.
    If you arent willing to do everything you can do to win, then you get out.
    Anything else causes unnecessary loss of life and property.
    How exactly are we to determine victory? What is the criteria? Who or what will sign the surrender? Do you expect an entity to actually sign surrender documents? Do you at least acknowledge that we are not fighting a state, but an idea? How long do people actually expect to be in Afghanistan? How long do people honestly think a mission could go on long after public support has ended?

    I agree it seems that some want to just throw "manly words" around without any context.

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Sure you are.

    I remember the celebrations you people had commemorating the 3000th dead soldier in Iraq, and then the 4000th.

    But I bet you don't say a ****in' word about the soldiers "Don't Want No Victory" Obama gets killed.
    First of all they weren't celebrations, but hey don't let facts get in the way of your pathetic and childish comments and lies.

    Secondly, as you were already proven wrong, the goals of Afghanistan are quite available, ready, and able. Anything more than that is your pathetic and childish comments to try and do a partisan attack.

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    So can you please tell us, what "non-victory" is and what it entails?



    hmm, didn't think so.
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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No, that would be "victory", and your messiah just stated he doesn't want to define victory.
    It's the same goals as GWB was in Afghanistan. Grow up, your "messiah" comments are childish for someone who supposedly works at the Pentagon which I seriously doubt.

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    How exactly are we to determine victory? What is the criteria?
    The Obama defined this as when we are "sure they can't attack the United States."

    Who or what will sign the surrender? Do you expect an entity to actually sign surrender documents?
    I believe The Obama covered this, when he plagarized GWB in saying that there would be no surrender on a battleship.

    Do you at least acknowledge that we are not fighting a state, but an idea?
    No - as The Obama said, "we're not dealing with nation states at this point. We're concerned with Al Qaeda and the Taliban, Al Qaeda's allies".

    How long do people actually expect to be in Afghanistan? How long do people honestly think a mission could go on long after public support has ended?
    You need to ask The Obama.

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