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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    That depends how established is established. Hence my example.
    I know the Rapist President informed all his idiot followers that he thought he could get away with questioning the definition of "is", but the sane people in the country weren't fooled, and he got impeached anyway.

    The Messiah admitted he doesn't know why he's continuing to have troops in Afghanistan.

    His cluelessness isn't a good reason to get real Americans killed.

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I know the men in uniform are intelligent enough to be asking "what the hell are we here dying for if there's no mission objective"?
    "Victory" is not a mission objective. That was the problem of the last administration. You have to have clear goals and a clear mission....no just "Win" "Victory" or "Defeat the Terrrrrrrrrrists"
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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    You are one angry mutha****a, aren't you man?!?!
    No.

    I was stating documented historical facts which anyone can obtain by staying awake.

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    "Victory" is not a mission objective. That was the problem of the last administration. You have to have clear goals and a clear mission....no just "Win" "Victory" or "Defeat the Terrrrrrrrrrists"
    Hello?

    Read the posts, don't sit around and pretend the rest of us haven't bothered to analyze correctly the implications of what the words from the ignorant Messiah in the White House mean and where he went wrong already.

    As the Holy One Stated, he doesn't have any goals in Afghanistan, and that means he needs to get some quick or get our men out of there.

    BTW, I ****ing provided one definition of "victory" for that ignorant messianic fascist boob, you're free to provide another definition, if you want us to laugh.

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I know the Rapist President informed all his idiot followers that he thought he could get away with questioning the definition of "is", but the sane people in the country weren't fooled, and he got impeached anyway.

    The Messiah admitted he doesn't know why he's continuing to have troops in Afghanistan.

    His cluelessness isn't a good reason to get real Americans killed.
    .................................................. ..........................That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    .................................................. ..........................That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said
    Your post didn't have anything to do with what I said, so now you have a chance to be productive.

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    "Victory" is not a mission objective. That was the problem of the last administration. You have to have clear goals and a clear mission....no just "Win" "Victory" or "Defeat the Terrrrrrrrrrists"
    This is the exact reason we have the metaphor used that we are not going to see some ceremonial surrender. There is no Caesarian Triumph to be found in this conflict. What we will see is a tempering of the ideology that dictates conflict with the U.S. You know, surprise surprise it seems to help if those potential enemy combatants start to see the U.S. not as an enemy, when they begin to view the U.S. more favorably, and when they begin to have more faith in a U.S. President than the leader of this Al-Qaeda movement.

    The events of the past 8 years are of course too expansive to be put in one thread, but a simple summary of events that followed. Al-Qaeda attacked the U.S., George Bush pulled the very military assets we needed to fight Al-Qaeda and sent them to Iraq. Afghanistan was allowed to linger for 8 years. In turn we created chaos in Iraq that allowed a new terrorist organization to form and ally itself with Al-Qaeda proper, this named Al-Qaeda in Iraq which never existed prior to 2003. Look at just about any number of books, articles, and documentaries made over the past 8 years and they all come to the same conclusion; we did NOT have enough boots on the ground in Afghanistan. The whole strategy until NOW was to fight and die to win control over an area that would just be turned right back to Taliban control. So now for the first time we have the troops being sent to the one area where we have an enemy that is truly committed to attacking us, what a marvel idea. These are the stone cold facts of what has occurred the past 8 years. So I for one find it beyond shameful for those to make this argument that we are less safe. This coming from supporters who still have yet to answer why a President did NOTHING for 8 months, a President who ignored the August memo telling him exactly what was going to happen. Simply pathetic.

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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Juanita Broaderick.

    Others have their accusations on record, too, all prior to his contamination of the White House, and one from his time in England as a Rhodes' Scholar. You could try looking at his history, not his hagiography.
    So accusations equate to guilt? No where was Clinton found guilty of rape.

    Also using terms like "Dear Leader", "The Messiah", etc do not validate your point and are quite childish for someone who claims to work at the Pentagon. Grow up.
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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    You send troops out with a goal. That goal is "victory". If you cannot achieve Victory, you don't have troops out in the field. It's that simple.

    What I read from this was, should O be Prez when bin Laden dies and or is captured, he'll pull the plug and send everyone home.

    That's what I read from it. That and hes not very historically well versed...
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    Re: Obama: 'Victory' Not Necessarily Goal in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    The real question is... define "winning".
    The Taliban is destroyed to the point that the word, "Taliban", is considered blasphamy in that part of the world and any group like it becomes illegal and immoral based on their Islamic beliefs.

    That's how you define, "winning", in that part of the world.
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