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    Re: Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

    The first and most crucial part of reforming anything is to stop going down the wrong roads.
    AMEN to that.

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    Re: Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    And that's the problem. The right has absolutely no intention of contributing to health care reform, they just want to saturate television with ads showing kindly old people who are homeless because of ObamaCare.
    Who says "healthcare reform" has to be in the form of socialized medicine? Why not do other things to actually make health care cheaper?
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    Re: Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    You mean that's your problem. Fact of the matter is, defeating Dear Leader's health care horror show is a vital part of health care reform. The first and most crucial part of reforming anything is to stop going down the wrong roads.

    HR3200 is the Mother Of All Wrong Roads. There can be no reform until this monstrosity is torn apart and flushed down the sewer.
    Let Will explain this to you...

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    Re: Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    And that's the problem. The right has absolutely no intention of contributing to health care reform, they just want to saturate television with ads showing kindly old people who are homeless because of ObamaCare.
    Pardon me if I have a problem with the government handling my health issues. I dont want the government dictating to me how I should live.
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    Re: Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    And that's the problem. The right has absolutely no intention of contributing to health care reform, they just want to saturate television with ads showing kindly old people who are homeless because of ObamaCare.
    They are also doing it to line their pockets with my lobbying money and bribes from the Health Care industry. OH YEAH! The corporations run our government and the right wingers with no clue champion it. Amazing.

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    Re: Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Let Will explain this to you...

    You mean a picture of bill that doesn't exist yet?! Yeah for you!

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    Re: Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    You mean a picture of bill that doesn't exist yet?! Yeah for you!
    Perhaps it's a picture of how the R's see the current form of the bill?

    It may not exist as a bill yet, but assuredly, it does exist as a planned bill.

    Otherwise, what have they been doing for the last bit in congress?
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    Re: Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I dont want the government dictating to me how I should live.
    REALLY? You want me to show you the ways the government already tells us how to live that I think you would agree with? I think you actually DO want the government telling people how they should live, you just don't agree with certain parts of it.

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    Re: Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    You mean a picture of bill that doesn't exist yet?! Yeah for you!
    Search Results - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

    This bill isn't before Congress?

    Is that your final answer? You don't want to use one of your lifelines?

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    Re: Reid: No health care vote in Senate until fall

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Perhaps it's a picture of how the R's see the current form of the bill?

    It may not exist as a bill yet, but assuredly, it does exist as a planned bill.

    Otherwise, what have they been doing for the last bit in congress?
    This is ridiculous.

    There is a bill. Not a "planned" bill, not a "contemplated" bill, not a "proposed" bill, but a bill.

    The bill is HR3200:

    111th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 3200
    To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes.
    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
    July 14, 2009

    Mr. DINGELL (for himself, Mr. RANGEL, Mr. WAXMAN, Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California, Mr. STARK, Mr. PALLONE, and Mr. ANDREWS) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Energy and Commerce, and in addition to the Committees on Ways and Means, Education and Labor, Oversight and Government Reform, and the Budget, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

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