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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    When people like this professor, Johnny Cochran and Al Sharpton get on their "I'm black so that makes you whitey's racist" soapbox it just diminishes the real racism that's out there and needs to be addressed. Like the boy who cries "wolf". After a while, nobody will listen.

    The guy's got a chip on his shoulder for white people. That appears to be obvious to me. So who's the REAL racist here? The professor? Or do only white people get to be racist in these politically correct times. Right?

    As we listen to all the minority comedians make "cracker" and "whitey" jokes, let a white comedian use the "n" word and see what happens.

    Sign of the times I suppose.



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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by galenrox View Post
    Man, it seems like you're trying your very hardest to not understand what I'm saying. I don't think the cops did anything wrong. They just got a call about a potential burglary and were doing what they're supposed to do in response to getting a call about a potential burglary.
    my bad... I am gassed from 2 hours of BJJ today, and half paying attention....


    You are right absolutley here we agree.


    But think about it, why the hell did someone assume he was a burglar, and not just a dude who lost his keys? If it was a white dude in a cardigan, do you think the first assumption is it's a potential burglary or that it's a dude who lost his keys? That doesn't piss you off? It's not the cops who are at fault, but I have a hard time believing that there would have ever been cops at his door if he was white.



    Dark night, the woman who called said she thought she saw two men with back packs trying to shoulder thier way into the front door, then go around back...


    White, black, whomever, I'd call. And no, not because they/he were/was black but because of the door nudging.


    I'd hate to assume what you are saying, and have it be a break in..... Which by Gates own account has happened before.
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Dark night, the woman who called said she thought she saw two men with back packs trying to shoulder thier way into the front door, then go around back...
    Wait, what?

    From what I read, this happened at around 1244, or 12:44 PM....since when is it a dark night at 44 mins past noon?
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    I don't know that anyone has looked at this from the perspective of the responding officer.

    You have a call of two individuals involved in a possible burglarly. You respond, knowing that IF it is a burglary, the second you are seen by the presumed-perps they might start shooting at you. Anytime you respond to a call like this you have no assurances whether you're going to leave in your patrol car or in an ambulance. Your adrenaline will be on "simmer" and ready to boil over at the first sign of trouble.

    You arrive and find an older, well-dressed black man, and another man, in the house. To your relief it doesn't look like an actual burglary. To do your due diligence, you ask for ID. The older black man acts reluctant to present his ID, and becomes belligerent. If this is actually his house as he claims, you have to wonder to yourself what his problem is. If it had been an actual burglary, wouldn't he have wanted to you to check the burglar's ID rather than just accepting their word that "they live here"?

    He shows you his ID but continues to rant and rave about you being a racist. Is he drunk? Off his meds? You don't know. Who is this guy and what is his problem?

    I probably would have arrested him for public disorderly also. Assuming the police report is factual, there was no need for this supposed "intellectual" to carry on like that, the officer was just doing his job, namely trying to protect the community from burglary and similar crime.

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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Wait, what?

    From what I read, this happened at around 1244, or 12:44 PM....since when is it a dark night at 44 mins past noon?



    Hold on, let me look...


    Yeah, you are right.






    But still the woman thought she saw two men with back backs trying to break in.... All the police were doing is following up on said report. His response to the police trying to protect and serve, yes him. Was inapropriate and race baiting.


    Also note, there was an actual break-in, as gates did break into his home, he has no way of knowing who he was.
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I don't know that anyone has looked at this from the perspective of the responding officer.

    You have a call of two individuals involved in a possible burglarly. You respond, knowing that IF it is a burglary, the second you are seen by the presumed-perps they might start shooting at you. Anytime you respond to a call like this you have no assurances whether you're going to leave in your patrol car or in an ambulance. Your adrenaline will be on "simmer" and ready to boil over at the first sign of trouble.

    You arrive and find an older, well-dressed black man, and another man, in the house. To your relief it doesn't look like an actual burglary. To do your due diligence, you ask for ID. The older black man acts reluctant to present his ID, and becomes belligerent. If this is actually his house as he claims, you have to wonder to yourself what his problem is. If it had been an actual burglary, wouldn't he have wanted to you to check the burglar's ID rather than just accepting their word that "they live here"?

    He shows you his ID but continues to rant and rave about you being a racist. Is he drunk? Off his meds? You don't know. Who is this guy and what is his problem?

    I probably would have arrested him for public disorderly also. Assuming the police report is factual, there was no need for this supposed "intellectual" to carry on like that, the officer was just doing his job, namely trying to protect the community from burglary and similar crime.


    This is exactly what I have been saying!
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I don't know that anyone has looked at this from the perspective of the responding officer...
    You make good points, but IMO, you must also ask if the police officers version of events is correct.

    Personally, I think it is, but...
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by galenrox View Post
    No worries man






    I was of the impression it was around noon, but even at night, wouldn't you ask yourself the question "Why didn't they try the back door first?" I mean, if you are planning on breaking into a house and burglarizing it, wouldn't you try the less visible entrance?



    Yeah it was around noon, my bad.... That said, still, two men, who did indeed "break and enter" would be something I would call the cops to go check out... No matter what color they were....


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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by galenrox View Post
    Depends, if it's a college town and there's one dude in a cardigan and another dressed like a chauffeur, I'd probably assume it was someone locked out of his house. If they're not making any effort to conceal it, I'm probably assuming it's someone locked out of his house.


    Apparently the woman who called just saw two men with backpacks. Eyewitnesses are notoriously bad....


    Also cambridge is far more than just a college town.

    As for assuming? If I did not know the neighbor, I'd call the non emergency line and have a car drive by.....



    Just to be safe, like I said, I had a neighbor do this to me, and I thanked the officers for thier time and response and thought nothing of it...
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by galenrox View Post
    Depends, if it's a college town and there's one dude in a cardigan and another dressed like a chauffeur, I'd probably assume it was someone locked out of his house. If they're not making any effort to conceal it, I'm probably assuming it's someone locked out of his house.
    I dunno. My wife manages a retail establishment, and someone pulled right up to the front door in the middle of the day and started loading up her SUV. Just happened recently.
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