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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Obama made a comment that had he lost the keys to the white house or something, that "he would be shot"....


    Classic American sharpton level race baiting. One would think our President would be above that.
    I don't think the President meant it in quite that way. After all, it is the White House and it is under 24/7 guard from unlawful intrution. So, in a comic form, I imagined the President losing his keys and trying to sneak into the Oval Office and being caught in the crosshairs of a sniper riffle. After being shot, he looks up at the Secret Service agent and asks, "Why'd you shot me? Don't you know I'm the President?" The SS agent then says, "Sorry, Mr. President, but we had a report that a black guy was breaking into the White House."

    Bah-dum-bump!

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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't think the President meant it in quite that way. After all, it is the White House and it is under 24/7 guard from unlawful intrution. So, in a comic form, I imagined the President losing his keys and trying to sneak into the Oval Office and being caught in the crosshairs of a sniper riffle. After being shot, he looks up at the Secret Service agent and asks, "Why'd you shot me? Don't you know I'm the President?" The SS agent then says, "Sorry, Mr. President, but we had a report that a black guy was breaking into the White House."

    Bah-dum-bump!



    I disagree, after attacking the cambridge PD, he seqwayed into this comment, it was directly related.
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    After having read the police report, it appears to me that the police Sgt. in question is not at fault, if his version of events is correct.

    This is not to say that his version of events IS incorrect....

    But one must always ask.

    That said, there seem to be a large number of potential witnesses to the actual reason for the arrest, so why the charge against Gates was dropped...
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    We also need to be concerned for our troops. Given his quickness to turn on a public peace officer, the next time our troops are falsley accused of an attrocity, how will this president respond?
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't think the President meant it in quite that way. After all, it is the White House and it is under 24/7 guard from unlawful intrution. So, in a comic form, I imagined the President losing his keys and trying to sneak into the Oval Office and being caught in the crosshairs of a sniper riffle. After being shot, he looks up at the Secret Service agent and asks, "Why'd you shot me? Don't you know I'm the President?" The SS agent then says, "Sorry, Mr. President, but we had a report that a black guy was breaking into the White House."

    Bah-dum-bump!
    I'll give the president benefit of the doubt for a joke tanking, but everyone has to admit it was a horrid timing mistake for the punchline.
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    After having read the police report, it appears to me that the police Sgt. in question is not at fault, if his version of events is correct.

    This is not to say that his version of events IS incorrect....

    But one must always ask.



    did you notice, how the officer mentioned the gathering crowd who witnessed this?


    I think this report will be found to be air-tight.
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I admin I don't know all the facts in this particular case, but my coworker and I - myself being an African American and my coworker being a female Hispanic - both agreed that based on what we know of the situation and our own experiences with local law enforcement there could have been some racial profiling by the Hartford PD.
    I never understand the issue with profiling.

    Maybe US is different and the racial tensions still exist and mistrust with police and i apologise if i am wrong but in London for example, black people disproportionately commit the most crime and stabbings. It makes sense the police stop and search and focus reflect the statistics of crime. I'd much rather be safe than anything else. I know its not a PC thing to say


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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I don't think the President meant it in quite that way. After all, it is the White House and it is under 24/7 guard from unlawful intrution. So, in a comic form, I imagined the President losing his keys and trying to sneak into the Oval Office and being caught in the crosshairs of a sniper riffle. After being shot, he looks up at the Secret Service agent and asks, "Why'd you shot me? Don't you know I'm the President?" The SS agent then says, "Sorry, Mr. President, but we had a report that a black guy was breaking into the White House."

    Bah-dum-bump!
    How is that funny, or appropriate for the President to say? How is it not race-baiting? And how is it not exactly what I said it was -- implying that he'd be shot because he's black?

    And besides being insulting to law enforcement everywhere, how is it not SPECIFICALLY insulting to the Secret Service charged with protecting him?

    I must note that no one laughed at this "joke."
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    did you notice, how the officer mentioned the gathering crowd who witnessed this?


    I think this report will be found to be air-tight.
    Yes, I did. But did YOU notice that the 2 reports provided in that link seem to indicate that the Sgt. was alone with Prof. Gates and his driver (and perhaps the neighbor?) for a short period before the second police officer showed up.

    That period seems the most dangerous to the Sgt. in terms of verifying his story.

    Additionally, it occurred to me that this happened at 1244, or the middle of the day. I do not have any idea of the layout of the house (shade?), or the location of the neighbor's house, but why would the neighbor not recognize her neighbor?
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    Re: Sergeant at eye of storm says he won't apologize

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    We also need to be concerned for our troops. Given his quickness to turn on a public peace officer, the next time our troops are falsley accused of an attrocity, how will this president respond?
    You just destroyed any sense of impartiality you may have had, and injected the hyper partisanship that you are too well known for.

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