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Democrats Block GOP Health Care Mailing

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Democrats are preventing Republican House Members from sending their constituents a mailing that is critical of the majority’s health care reform plan, blocking the mailing by alleging that it is inaccurate.
House Republicans are crying foul and claiming that the Democrats are using their majority to prevent GOP Members from communicating with their constituents.

The dispute centers on a chart (view PDF) created by Rep. Kevin Brady (R-Texas) and Republican staff of the Joint Economic Committee to illustrate the organization of the Democratic health care plan.

At first glance, Brady’s chart resembles a board game: a colorful collection of shapes and images with a web of lines connecting them.

But a closer look at the image reveals a complicated menagerie of government offices and programs that Republicans say will be created if the leading Democratic health care plan becomes law.

In a memo sent Monday to Republicans on the House franking commission, Democrats argue that sending the chart to constituents as official mail would violate House rules because the information is misleading.

Democrats Block GOP Health Care Mailing - Roll Call


Ahhh, watching the Dem Congresscritters going into convulsions is fun.
 
That smells of the worst kind of desperation.
 
Democrats Block GOP Health Care Mailing - Roll Call


Ahhh, watching the Dem Congresscritters going into convulsions is fun.

Another new precedent being set by Liberal Democrat loons; now when the Republicans are once again in the majority, they no one can complain if they decide to prevent constituent mailings from Democrats as they will be the "deciders" what is not misleading right?

:cool:
 
Another new precedent being set by Liberal Democrat loons; now when the Republicans are once again in the majority, they no one can complain if they decide to prevent constituent mailings from Democrats as they will be the "deciders" what is not misleading right?

:cool:

So you don't care if Congressmen send out lies using taxpayer money as long as they are Republicans? Here is what they wanted to send out, a fictitious "chart" supposedly representing the "Democratic health care plan". It's all made up, of course, and if the Republicans had been allowed to send it out, taxpayers would have paid for it.

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So you don't care if Congressmen send out lies using taxpayer money as long as they are Republicans? Here is what they wanted to send out, a fictitious "chart" supposedly representing the "Democratic health care plan". It's all made up, of course, and if the Republicans had been allowed to send it out, taxpayers would have paid for it.

chart.jpg

Really? Explain in detail exactly how this is misleading or false. What did they get wrong or fabricate? Show it.

(Not that there's much doubt that this is the last we'll hear from you in this thread.)
 
So you don't care if Congressmen send out lies using taxpayer money as long as they are Republicans? Here is what they wanted to send out, a fictitious "chart" supposedly representing the "Democratic health care plan". It's all made up, of course, and if the Republicans had been allowed to send it out, taxpayers would have paid for it.

chart.jpg

Fascinating rhetoric; but even the House Democrats suggested it was "misleading," not a lie. Do you know something we don’t?

I know, why don’t you go through this chart and show me exactly what part is a lie?

So tell me something Will, why is it that you feel so compelled to carry Obama's water? Will you eventually see the light when the economy continues heading into the crapper a year from now, two years?
 
So you don't care if Congressmen send out lies using taxpayer money as long as they are Republicans? Here is what they wanted to send out, a fictitious "chart" supposedly representing the "Democratic health care plan". It's all made up, of course, and if the Republicans had been allowed to send it out, taxpayers would have paid for it.

The president and congress lie all the time using taxpayer money, whats the difference if this is a lie or not?

Why does it matter now and not when your party does it?
 
Really? Explain in detail exactly how this is misleading or false. What did they get wrong or fabricate? Show it.

(Not that there's much doubt that this is the last we'll hear from you in this thread.)

You took the words right out of my post. I would like a detailed explanation of what is misleading in that chart.
 
I hate when articles don't link to their source material

In their eight-point memo, which was obtained by Roll Call, Democrats identify a litany of areas where they believe the chart is incorrect.

So where's the memo?! It's pretty impossible to judge who is in the right here without it
 
Fascinating rhetoric; but even the House Democrats suggested it was "misleading," not a lie. Do you know something we don’t?

I know, why don’t you go through this chart and show me exactly what part is a lie?

So tell me something Will, why is it that you feel so compelled to carry Obama's water? Will you eventually see the light when the economy continues heading into the crapper a year from now, two years?

1 - there is no health care plan, so how could the Repugs have formulated a diagram of it?

2 - if it doesn't exist and they claim it does, "misleading" is a charitible word. What it is is a lie

3 - I am not "carrying anyone's water". I am a Democrat on a mainly Ditto-head debate forum, representing the majority of Americans who support the Obama administration

4 - The economy has already begun heading "out of the crapper", but it will take at least a couple of years until we no longer smell the stench of the Republican administration.
 
1 - there is no health care plan, so how could the Repugs have formulated a diagram of it?

2 - if it doesn't exist and they claim it does, "misleading" is a charitible word. What it is is a lie

3 - I am not "carrying anyone's water". I am a Democrat on a mainly Ditto-head debate forum, representing the majority of Americans who support the Obama administration

4 - The economy has already begun heading "out of the crapper", but it will take at least a couple of years until we no longer smell the stench of the Republican administration.

Oh my GOD, Magnum. You're saying there's no health care bill in Congress?

Really? That's what you're saying? Really?

Let's be clear about this -- really?
 
No one is preventing the Republicans from sending it out via the party are they now.. so what is the problem? I bet even the Republicans could get the Healthcare industry to pay for it since they sleep in the same bed anyways!
 
Ah, the other Centrist reliably shows up, being reliably "Centrist."

This sort of thing is routinely done using the franking privilege. Check it out.
 
No one is preventing the Republicans from sending it out via the party are they now.. so what is the problem? I bet even the Republicans could get the Healthcare industry to pay for it since they sleep in the same bed anyways!
The problem is that Anti-Republican congressmen are denying their Republican colleagues a privilege that is supposed to extend to all members of Congress regardless of party. The franking privilege is not limited to the majority party.
 
The problem is that Anti-Republican congressmen are denying their Republican colleagues a privilege that is supposed to extend to all members of Congress regardless of party. The franking privilege is not limited to the majority party.

And you know as well as I do, that "dirty tricks" is not a new thing in those buildings. So if the GOP really thought it was important to get this piece of paper out, then use the RNC for it for god sake and then whine about it.. would at least give their piece of paper and charts much more credibility. All you have now, is more partisan "WAHHHHH mommy he is being mean to me" antics.. and frankly I would have thought that the GOP was better than that... I guess not.
 
Who's to say they won't? But it's hardly the point.

Not that you wouldn't have been weighing in rather differently a few years ago.
 
And you know as well as I do, that "dirty tricks" is not a new thing in those buildings. So if the GOP really thought it was important to get this piece of paper out, then use the RNC for it for god sake and then whine about it.. would at least give their piece of paper and charts much more credibility. All you have now, is more partisan "WAHHHHH mommy he is being mean to me" antics.. and frankly I would have thought that the GOP was better than that... I guess not.

No you wouldn't. You don't even give the GOP credit for the good they do and you fall all over yourself to lambaste them for anything you think even has a chance of sticking and a lot of stuff you know doesn't have a chance anyway.

:roll:
 
Seems to me that the people in power can call anything "misleading" and prevent it from being communicated. I say let the mailer go out, and if the opposing party can refute it, then they should send out their own mailer.

Let the people get all the information on something that is such a major issue, and let them make their own decision. I think this would be a great way to get people more involved.
 
No you wouldn't. You don't even give the GOP credit for the good they do and you fall all over yourself to lambaste them for anything you think even has a chance of sticking and a lot of stuff you know doesn't have a chance anyway.

:roll:

What good? Can you even name anything good the last decade?
 
What good? Can you even name anything good the last decade?

So . . . why would you "frankly" have thought the "GOP" would have been "better than that"?
 
So . . . why would you "frankly" have thought the "GOP" would have been "better than that"?

Because even for the GOP 2009, this is frankly beneath them.
 
1 - there is no health care plan, so how could the Repugs have formulated a diagram of it?

2 - if it doesn't exist and they claim it does, "misleading" is a charitible word. What it is is a lie

3 - I am not "carrying anyone's water". I am a Democrat on a mainly Ditto-head debate forum, representing the majority of Americans who support the Obama administration

4 - The economy has already begun heading "out of the crapper", but it will take at least a couple of years until we no longer smell the stench of the Republican administration.



So we were supposed to have our congress critters vote on a non existant plan? :roll:
 
Because even for the GOP 2009, this is frankly beneath them.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. At WORST here, by your own accusation, they're being pedantic sticklers for a procedural issue (at WORST), and after a decade of failing to do ANY good, ANY good at all, THAT'S "beneath them"?

Now you're just embarrassing yourself.
 
And you know as well as I do, that "dirty tricks" is not a new thing in those buildings. So if the GOP really thought it was important to get this piece of paper out, then use the RNC for it for god sake and then whine about it.. would at least give their piece of paper and charts much more credibility. All you have now, is more partisan "WAHHHHH mommy he is being mean to me" antics.. and frankly I would have thought that the GOP was better than that... I guess not.
The relevant point is that the Anti-Republicans are seeking to deny to the minority party a privilege that by law extends to all members of Congress.

So you are ok with there being one standard of law for Anti-Republicans and another standard for the rest of America?

Nice to know Anti-Republicans are more equal than the rest of us, Squealer.
 
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