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    FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

    My Way News - FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

    President Barack Obama's assertion Wednesday that government will stay out of health care decisions in an overhauled system is hard to square with the proposals coming out of Congress and with his own rhetoric.
    Nice summary of Dear Leader's lies in tonight's press conference.

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

    Fact checking the so-called "Fact-Checkers"
    Associated Press reporter Calvin Woodward has a history of straining to catch Barack Obama in factual errors. But today's review of last night's Obama press conference may have hit a new low in absurdity.


    FAIR Blog Calvin Woodward
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    Re: FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

    Here is the least biased fact-checking source that I've found to date.

    -NC

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

    Quote Originally Posted by NortheastCynic View Post
    Here is the least biased fact-checking source that I've found to date.

    -NC
    factcheck.org actually is one of the most non-partisan and best sources out there.
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    Re: FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
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    Nice summary of Dear Leader's lies in tonight's press conference.

    Its kinda ironic that your signature contains a phrase from the declaration of Independence, namely that we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights, one of which is the right to LIFE.....and yet, you don't believe that basic healthcare is a right.

    What do you think the inalienable right to life means? (let me guess....you think it just means a definition adopted by anti-abortion groups, right?)
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    Re: FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    factcheck.org actually is one of the most non-partisan and best sources out there.
    Quite true, except I do have a point of disagreement with their assessment of Iraq's costs. They figure current to date expenditure of $684 billion, yet there is something quite significant that they ignored; the continuing cost of coverage for disabled veterans. With this and other expenditures the expected cost will be $3-5trillion conservatively. Nobel economist Joseph Stiglitz did a moderate estimate of $3 trillion total cost.

    Also, they argue costs using 2006 OECD data, which is strange since the 2008 data is widely available.

    Link to Times of London article on the costs
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    Re: FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Nice summary of Dear Leader's lies in tonight's press conference.
    So you are quoting the same people that have said that Obama's birth certificate is legal and he is a natural born citizen?

    So does that mean you FINALLY believe Obama is a natural born citizen?

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Fact checking the so-called "Fact-Checkers"
    Associated Press reporter Calvin Woodward has a history of straining to catch Barack Obama in factual errors. But today's review of last night's Obama press conference may have hit a new low in absurdity.


    FAIR Blog Calvin Woodward
    Now that is just classic! HAHA

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    Re: FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So you are quoting the same people that have said that Obama's birth certificate is legal and he is a natural born citizen?

    So does that mean you FINALLY believe Obama is a natural born citizen?
    Its what you call a "Cafeteria Conservative"
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    Re: FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Quite true, except I do have a point of disagreement with their assessment of Iraq's costs. They figure current to date expenditure of $684 billion, yet there is something quite significant that they ignored; the continuing cost of coverage for disabled veterans. With this and other expenditures the expected cost will be $3-5trillion conservatively. Nobel economist Joseph Stiglitz did a moderate estimate of $3 trillion total cost.

    Also, they argue costs using 2006 OECD data, which is strange since the 2008 data is widely available.
    EXACTLY!

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