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AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

F107HyperSabr said:
I'm just having loads of fun watching the Palin appologists falling all over themselves trying to cover up for the Perils of Palin. All one has to do is point ou one legitimate criticism of The Palin and the Palin appoligists just go off into hyper space calling anyone who is senisible and sees The Plain for what she is - a fraud and a quitter.
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if you pointed out 1 you might have an ever so slight and barely meaningful argument
but your obssessed behaviour about every single thing Palin, as well as the Media, makes your look like a fool when you spout such nonsense

get a life and get out of Palins
 
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Let's keep it civil people.
 
I just can't bring myself to read this entire thread, but based on the first few pages I have to ask myself a couple of things here.
  1. Exactly what did she do that was unethical or illegal by state or federal law?
  2. Why aren't the authorities pursuing this if in fact it was illegal? By authorities I mean whatever commission is charged with investigating these things?

And what competent investigator releases his finding to the press before he presents them to the government? Come on, this smells like another smear job.

God I hope these questions haven't been definitively answered already, I'll feel foolish.

Just in case...watch this...

 
We can all come up with cute syndromes in support of The Palin or in criticism of the appologists. Why don't we find a cure for DOLPIAC Syndrome so the people so afflicted will no longer suffer.

DOLPIAC = DENY OUR LITTLE PALIN IS A CRIMINAL , a SYNDROME
 
Why is it unethical to accept funds from a private organization if the organization was set up to give you funds?
 
Lerxst said:
I just can't bring myself to read this entire thread, but based on the first few pages I have to ask myself a couple of things here.
  1. Exactly what did she do that was unethical or illegal by state or federal law?
  2. Why aren't the authorities pursuing this if in fact it was illegal? By authorities I mean whatever commission is charged with investigating these things?

And what competent investigator releases his finding to the press before he presents them to the government? Come on, this smells like another smear job.

God I hope these questions haven't been definitively answered already, I'll feel foolish.

Just in case...watch this...

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Well I may not agree with you on the Perils of Palin foibles but you do have good taste in the female body form. Those are two sets of extremely educated and intelligent breasts.
 
F107HyperSabr said:
We can all come up with cute syndromes in support of The Palin or in criticism of the appologists. Why don't we find a cure for DOLPIAC Syndrome so the people so afflicted will no longer suffer.

DOLPIAC = DENY OUR LITTLE PALIN IS A CRIMINAL , a SYNDROME
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so you can show her lengthy criminal career? links please
i will throw you a bone
please link TO JUST 1 criminal act that the woman who the left loves to hate, has commited and been convicted of

otherwise take your partisan rabid BS elsewhere like Code Pink
 
Lakryte said:
Why is it unethical to accept funds from a private organization if the organization was set up to give you funds?
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What I understand is that the allowing of them to 'officially' use her name and position in the begging Website is what is unethical under Alaska law.

Now oce she is no longer a goernor will the unethiclacity of the Website change ? Who knows maybe so. But don't fret with her track record she will mange to break other ethical rules or laws. You the old saying once a criminal always a criminal. lol
 
Lerxst said:
I just can't bring myself to read this entire thread, but based on the first few pages I have to ask myself a couple of things here.
  1. Exactly what did she do that was unethical or illegal by state or federal law?
  2. Why aren't the authorities pursuing this if in fact it was illegal? By authorities I mean whatever commission is charged with investigating these things?
And what competent investigator releases his finding to the press before he presents them to the government? Come on, this smells like another smear job.

God I hope these questions haven't been definitively answered already, I'll feel foolish.

Just in case...watch this...

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i wish you were right, but you are up to speed
PDS is rampant, have you been inoculated?;)
 
DeeJayH said:
so you can show her lengthy criminal career? links please
i will throw you a bone
please link TO JUST 1 criminal act that the woman who the left loves to hate, has commited and been convicted of

otherwise take your partisan rabid BS elsewhere like Code Pink
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You guys really need to develop a sense humor !! I used to think that leftists were short of humor, you know all serious about hyper political correctness and extreme social justice for animals in that they thought that circus elephants were being embarrassed. Lighten up !!

What is this "Code Pink " thing ? Is that some homosexual rights group ? Are they some illegal alien rights group ? Are they famous ? What have they done ?
 
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F107HyperSabr said:
You guys really need to develop a sense humor !! I used to think that leftists were short of humor, you know all serious about hyper political correctness and extreme social justice for animals in that they thought that circus elephants were being embarrassed. Lighten up !!

What is this "Code Pink " thing ? Is that some homosexual rights group ? Are they some illegal alien rights group ? Are they famous ? What have they done ?
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oh well played :roll:
you are proved to be full of it, so you say it was a joke
too bad it is you that is the joke
 
What I understand is that the allowing of them to 'officially' use her name and position in the begging Website is what is unethical under Alaska law.
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Ok. Did Palin set up this organization? And what do you mean by "allowing" them to "officially" use her name? Do you have a link to the ethics law she is accused of violating? I would like to read it myself.
 
Lakryte said:
Ok. Did Palin set up this organization? And what do you mean by "allowing" them to "officially" use her name? Do you have a link to the ethics law she is accused of violating? I would like to read it myself.
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The law or rule as I understand it does not say that the beneficiary had to set up the fund. As I understand it the fact that she allowed her name and function to be used was enough. I didn't write the law/rule the Alaskans did. I did not make the accusation or charge against The Palin Alaskans did.
Since she is from Alaska and it appears that an Alaskan law or rule was violated who am I to disagree with the nice Alaskan people who made the accusation against her. They must know her better than you or I.
 
The law or rule as I understand it does not say that the beneficiary had to set up the fund. As I understand it the fact that she allowed her name and function to be used was enough. I didn't write the law/rule the Alaskans did. I did not make the accusation or charge against The Palin Alaskans did.
Since she is from Alaska and it appears that an Alaskan law or rule was violated who am I to disagree with the nice Alaskan people who made the accusation against her. They must know her better than you or I.
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What is that law or rule? I would like to read it myself. Since I assume you agree with the accusation of Palin, the burden of proof falls on you, an accuser. I just want to see for myself if this is such a big deal or not. You keep saying the law/rule but I have yet to see what that law/rule actually is yet.
 
DeeJayH said:
oh well played :roll:
you are proved to be full of it, so you say it was a joke
too bad it is you that is the joke
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Again your response is anoher example that you guys are not getting the proper way to behave in a polite debate forum. Instead of responding to the issue and the opinion that I have that Palin has behaved unethically tinstead you attack me personally. You don't like the fact that I laugh at The Palin so you attack me - " bad it is you that is the joke".

Did I attack you personally ? No I did not. Did I make fun of what appears to be one of your favorite politicians / Yes I apparently did. Is it appropriate to make fun and criticize the positions and actions of politicians in a forum ? Yes it is. Is it appropriate to attack other forum members ? No it is not.

So why don't you stick to trying to prove to me and other people who are cynical and have no respect for a politician named PALIN that she somehow deserves our respect instead of making personal attacks at other forum members. jJst remember that I am critical of The Palin and not you.
 
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FreeTh!nk3r said:
LMFAO no, but im willing to laugh hilariously in your face for believing this mess. Who is Kristan Cole? Oh thats right! Palins long time buddy and friend. The very same one that Palin herself appointed to AK Board of Agriculture and Conservation.

Now in order for anyone to believe this. We would have to believe the founder of the trust fund is lying.



More from the investigator.


Something just doesnt sit right here. So here is a run down. We have Palin at first denying the illegality of the fund, then saying she has nothing to do with the fund despite authorizing it. We then have the tres of the fund speak out and say the governor has nothing to do with it despite the evidence in the report. Its interesting but whom should we believe? Her BFF or an independent investigator?
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My question for you is: Why should we believe either of them?
 
Lakryte said:
What is that law or rule? I would like to read it myself. Since I assume you agree with the accusation of Palin, the burden of proof falls on you, an accuser. I just want to see for myself if this is such a big deal or not. You keep saying the law/rule but I have yet to see what that law/rule actually is yet.
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Actually, I want to know what law/rule/statute she violated as well, as i have not been able to find information on this as of yet.
 
Lakryte said:
What is that law or rule? I would like to read it myself. Since I assume you agree with the accusation of Palin, the burden of proof falls on you, an accuser. I just want to see for myself if this is such a big deal or not. You keep saying the law/rule but I have yet to see what that law/rule actually is yet.
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I believe that I did post a link to the story about the fund and the law/rule that she is accused of violating earier on in this thread. It should be Googleable.

There is no burden of proof on me because I am not the accuser. I merely believe the accusers based upon the way The Palin has behaved in the past with troopergate and the expenses for her kids traveling and the per diem.

The troopergate scheme that she tried to pull off is an abuse of power. To me the abuse of power by an elected or appointed government official is an extremely aggregious act. The right of a citizen not to be the victim of a government abuser goes back to the founding reasons and principles of this great country. The English King George, his appointees and colonial overseers, and the so called parliament were abusers of power against the pre-Independent Americans. We fought a war not to be subjected to that type of abuse. We are supposed to be a nation of laws and laws are supposed to be the way our govenmental processes work. I do not care if that Palin or her appologists say that she abused her power for a good reason e.g a reported bad beahvior by a state police trooper. If that trooper did something bad, illegal, or wrong he needs to go through the legal and proper process get punished for doing something bad but without the interference of the chief government official of the state who happens to be his former sister in law.

The fact is that what The Palin did was wrong and two wrongs do not make a right.
 
The fact is that what The Palin did was wrong and two wrongs do not make a right.
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Nor do past wrongs mean there is another wrong (and there is debate encircling those wrongs as well). The burden of proof is on the accusers. You say you agree with the accusers. You are now on a debate forum debating in favor of the position of the accusers. Right now you ARE an accuser. You have yet to give me the link to the law she broke. I will not google it simply because I am not the one who needs to display proof. Your turn to display it. If you can't, fine, but you then your argument will remain "Palin broke some law but I don't know what it is". That is not a strong argument.

The troopergate scheme that she tried to pull off is an abuse of power. To me the abuse of power by an elected or appointed government official is an extremely aggregious act. The right of a citizen not to be the victim of a government abuser goes back to the founding reasons and principles of this great country. The English King George, his appointees and colonial overseers, and the so called parliament were abusers of power against the pre-Independent Americans. We fought a war not to be subjected to that type of abuse. We are supposed to be a nation of laws and laws are supposed to be the way our govenmental processes work. I do not care if that Palin or her appologists say that she abused her power for a good reason e.g a reported bad beahvior by a state police trooper. If that trooper did something bad, illegal, or wrong he needs to go through the legal and proper process get punished for doing something bad but without the interference of the chief government official of the state who happens to be his former sister in law.
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For the record, Palin was found innocent of the Troopergate scandal. If you think she was guilty of something, you will need to give me evidence of that as well that was not already disputed by the conclusion that Palin was innocent. I will not let you spew out rhetoric in an attempt to disgrace her. If the evidence proves she is undoubtedly guilty of something that is actually terrible, then fine. But you need to give me that evidence or you have no argument. Period.

King George is not equivalent to Palin at all nor do I see why you think that is somehow evidence of Palin's guilt. What abuse are you referring to? You went on and on about it but you didn't actually tell me what it was.

"That abuse she did." "That law she broke." You can't just use general terms like this. You have to be specific. Now for the last time, give me the evidence or don't bother responding. Thank you.
 
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Two wrongs don't make a right?

All this jaw-jacking is actually pretty boring stuff, although it might make you feel good. Trying to make a case for or against without all the facts is a waste of time - and it annoys the pig.

Let the investigations run their course and argue with the decisions.

I'm just sayin'...
 
Lerxst said:
I just can't bring myself to read this entire thread, but based on the first few pages I have to ask myself a couple of things here.
  1. Exactly what did she do that was unethical or illegal by state or federal law?
  2. Why aren't the authorities pursuing this if in fact it was illegal? By authorities I mean whatever commission is charged with investigating these things?

And what competent investigator releases his finding to the press before he presents them to the government? Come on, this smells like another smear job.

God I hope these questions haven't been definitively answered already, I'll feel foolish.

Just in case...watch this...

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Leave it to Lerxt to come up with the breast.... um, I mean best posts at DP. LOL.
 
danarhea said:
Leave it to Lerxt to come up with the breast.... um, I mean best posts at DP. LOL.
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Well I do support a policy of more jiggling
 
F107HyperSabr said:
I believe that I did post a link to the story about the fund and the law/rule that she is accused of violating earier on in this thread. It should be Googleable.

There is no burden of proof on me because I am not the accuser.
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So then you didn't fling these accusations around...

After this latest little ditty has surfaced one would think that the Palin Apologists would finally wake up and realize that yes at least half of the "allegations" against her were true if not all.
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The topic is Palin's corruption
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Yhe she didn't decide to quit over this one charge there has to be coming. An honest and inocent person would have stayed and fought for the truth so the truth must be the charges against her becasue otherwise why would she run ??
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It's just the tip of the iceberg. This so called reformer is an abuser of power.
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For her cynical attitude and her abuse of power. She is a phoney baloney who will eventually get the punishment that she deserves.
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Noooooo. No accusations there. /sarcasm off

What I do notice is that in addition to the blatant falsehood that you weren't accusing her of anything, there was nothing of substance in any of it. Just hyperdrama rant and mindless mouthfoaming.

I merely believe the accusers based upon the way The Palin has behaved in the past with troopergate and the expenses for her kids traveling and the per diem.
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You mean...those things which she was found to be within her power and basically acquitted of?

The troopergate scheme that she tried to pull off is an abuse of power. To me the abuse of power by an elected or appointed government official is an extremely aggregious act. The right of a citizen not to be the victim of a government abuser goes back to the founding reasons and principles of this great country. The English King George, his appointees and colonial overseers, and the so called parliament were abusers of power against the pre-Independent Americans. We fought a war not to be subjected to that type of abuse. We are supposed to be a nation of laws and laws are supposed to be the way our govenmental processes work. I do not care if that Palin or her appologists say that she abused her power for a good reason e.g a reported bad beahvior by a state police trooper. If that trooper did something bad, illegal, or wrong he needs to go through the legal and proper process get punished for doing something bad but without the interference of the chief government official of the state who happens to be his former sister in law.

The fact is that what The Palin did was wrong and two wrongs do not make a right.
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Palin did nothing wrong. The Personnel Board even said as much and the complaint was found to be meritless. Like all the others.

Now see folks...these points won't be addressed because they include things the PDS crowd finds inconvenient: facts. They aren't interested in honest discussion. Unless it's a Palin Hate Circle Jerk, they ain't interested. Because they have no valid arguments.
 
jallman said:
That's another good point. Because if you look at her record, she shows no interest in telling citizens how to live their lives. She fought corruption at the state level with everything she had. That's her record.

But God forbid we actually discuss the woman's record and the FACTS behind her administration. What, oh, what would they have to scream about then?
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Hmmmmmm... maybe how much more qualified for office she is, as opposed to the slime in the White House?
 
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