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AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

To my knowledge none of the charges got into court therefore there wee no court costs. My best recollection is that virtually all charges and investigations have been administrative. There was some cost for deopositions when Palin went and used State of Alaska funds to have her kids travle but she did not pay that the State did.

The so called court costs are just PALIN crying wolf and her apologists tring to gannner sympathy for her.

Your going to have to Google the court costs thing becasue I can't find it.

Do you have proof that Palin had no legal fees associated with these investigations?
 
To my knowledge none of the charges got into court therefore there wee no court costs. My best recollection is that virtually all charges and investigations have been administrative. There was some cost for deopositions when Palin went and used State of Alaska funds to have her kids travle but she did not pay that the State did.

The so called court costs are just PALIN crying wolf and her apologists tring to gannner sympathy for her.

Your going to have to Google the court costs thing becasue I can't find it.

A half million dollars worth of admin fees? That's insane!
 
Yes, and the principle was that if the cabinet member continues to make an ass of himself, he can be fired.

The firing of her cabinet officer was 100% within her juridiction and 100% free of any ethical taint.

Generally speaking, I want ANY governor of ANY state to be able to fire ANY cop who tases his step-son for just about any reason, unless that child actually had a gun or knife in his hand and was intent on committing gross bodily injury to someone.

So, what you're arguing is that the Governor of Alaska should have ignored the fact that the Alaska state police had a lunatic on it's staff who posed a threat to the safety of the public solely because that one individual was also known to the Governor on a personal level.

So, let's pretend that the Governor DIDN"T get this guy fired. What would you be saying right now, if that guy tased or shot another child? Hmmmmm?

The issue is not that she fired a cabinate office holder she can and legally should have that right. The issue is not that a policeman most likely behaved very badly. If he did he should be dealt with just like any other policeman or employee should be. If the policeman did what he did he needed to be dealt with.

The issue is the connection that she had with the policeman. He was her former brother-in-law who apparently had gone throggh a nasty divorce with her sister. The porper, legal, ethical, and practical thing for her to have done was to stay out of any procedings, law suits, and or administrative actions that the policeman bro in law was part of. I say practical becasue by her sticking herself into the investigation of her former brother-in-law she could have jeopordized punitive action being taken against him assuming that he was indded guilty. From what I read what he did was very bad and I have no respect for anyone who does anything tro a kid.

Yet I also have zero respect to any polician who abuses his/her power even if she thinks it was for the right reason. ABUSE OF PPOWER IS WRONG. It is also very stupid especially if it results in setting someone who abused a child free.
 
This obsession with Palin is aboslutely maniacal. Everything she says or does is put under an electron microscope by rabid leftists who can't even be bothered to take a glance at their corrupt, hypocritical Leader.

Barack Obama flip-flipped on FISA and campaign finance.

Barack Obama criticized John McCain for hiring lobbyists and solemnly swore that no lobbyist would find a job in his White House. He immediately broke his promise.

Barack Obama has hired people with serious tax issues to hold positions of major power within government. The most ironic being our Secretary of Treasury, Tim Geithner.

Before signing the largest domestic spending bill in history, one that nobody read, Obama engaged in a calculated and intense campaign of fear-mongering in order to ram it through the Congress. The predictions he underpinned his fear-mongering with turned out to be absolutely wrong.

Barack Obama unlawfully fired an independent government investigator charged with uncovering waste, fraud, and corruption in government for purely political purposes.

Barack Obama supports rendition policies and indefinite detention of enemy combatants.

All of this is being done by the President of the United States and all you can do is smear the former Governor of Alaska. You people are pathetic.

Everything you said about Obama is correct. Palin is a blatant opportunist too, who puts her career ahead of what is good for America. If people on both sides were honest, they would be bashing the crap out of both of them, instead of slamming one while giving the other a pass because of the letter next to the name.
 
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Do you have proof that Palin had no legal fees associated with these investigations?

That is not what I said ... I said that there were no court fees !!! I also have not seen any proof that she had anywhere near 1/2 million in legal fees that she paid for.
 
Everything you said about Obama is correct. Palin is a blatant opportunist too, who puts her career ahead of what is good for America. If people on both sides were honest, they would be bashing the crap out of both of them, instead of slamming one and giving the other a pass.

You are correct that Obama let a few people pass free. That was contrary to what he said during the " we need change we can believe in". As the old saying goes two wrongs do not make a right!!
 
Boy that must have really pissed the PALIN APOLOGISTS OFF that he ""leaked" his findings " huh!!

No, I was making a comment on his reliability.

But then, the lefties never really care about stuff like principles, just "results that feel good"
 
Well, no. No one on your side is demanding anything resembling fairness, ethics, honesty, or even Constitutional government. You're cheering on a bunch of rabid haters who haven't yet managed, in at least fifteen tries, to hang anything on your victim.

Ethical behavior from our elected officials means not tacking on 300 pages of unread unvoted amendments onto a major bill, the Crap&Trade bill, to pay certain representatives to vote for the bill. Your support of the Messiah lends your support to actions like that. Highly unethical, that.

Legal behavior would mean that your Messiah would fire his Attorney General who decided to drop a race-related voter intimidation case simply because the president, the Attorny General, and the intimidators were all the same race, since that was clearly an illegal act in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment's equal protection clause.


Again hyou are straying away from the thread topic. The topic is the PALIN and the PALIN'S lack of ethics.

If you have the proof that "certain representatives ' were ' paid "to vote for the bill" please start a thread I don't tolerate corruptiion from ether party.
But that is a separate thread . This is a PLAIN lack of ethics threaD.
 
No, I was making a comment on his reliability.

But then, the lefties never really care about stuff like principles, just "results that feel good"

You know if you look at the facts honestly who may see that that both sides can and have lacked principles at times and by certain people. And anyone can play the petty little partisan games and say stuff like your side is bad, and no your side is bad.

I left that somewhere in second grade and it was taken by the lefties and the righties. .
 
No, I was making a comment on his reliability.

But then, the lefties never really care about stuff like principles, just "results that feel good"

Bring on those old time Beaver Cleaver values:lol:

I mean really just who are you trying to kid with comments like that?

If any party is a "feel good" political party it would have to be the Republicans with their so called moral codes and family values BS including but not limited to abstinence only education.
 
[QUOTE=Middleground;1058148529]A half million dollars worth of admin fees? That's insane![/QUOTE]

Alaska’s tab for ethics complaints about Palin: $1.9 million | csmonitor.com

from Chistian Science Monitor =
"The spreadsheet released Wednesday shows that most of the $1.9 million – spread over Palin’s tenure – is for staff time of state attorneys and other salaried state employees, who would have been paid anyway. The total expended to date is 0.02 percent of Alaska’s operating budget of $8.7 billion for fiscal year 2010."

The bulk of the investigative costs that resulted from the "allegations" were for ATTORNEY COSTS 'who would have been paid anyway".

Now Palin tried to tell us that she resigned to save the state money. Boy ain't she some heroine. WELL READ THIS AGAIN "staff time of state attorneys and other salaried state employees, who would have been paid anyway. "

This is just another eason why I have no respect for this woman. She lies and lies and then lies some more.

She says she wanted to save the state money but "have been paid anyway"
 
She says she wanted to save the state money but "have been paid anyway"

Yeah.

They would have been paid anyway.

They would have been working on something useful to the people of Alaska in that case. As it was, almost two million dollars of taxpayer money was wasted on empty Democrat witchhunts.
 
The issue is not that she fired a cabinate office holder she can and legally should have that right.

Then there's no issue, since the state cop in question was clearly a danger and did not belong in uniform.

The issue is the connection that she had with the policeman.

Yes, now you are arguing that because the cop was known to her, she should have done nothing and allowed a known hazard to remain in uniform to either hurt some other citizen or put the state at risk for a multi-million dollar lawsuit.

I already told you what you'd say, all you had to do was bow to my infinite wisdom, you didn't have to confirm it.
 
Then there's no issue, since the state cop in question was clearly a danger and did not belong in uniform.



Yes, now you are arguing that because the cop was known to her, she should have done nothing and allowed a known hazard to remain in uniform to either hurt some other citizen or put the state at risk for a multi-million dollar lawsuit.

I already told you what you'd say, all you had to do was bow to my infinite wisdom, you didn't have to confirm it.

How was he dangerous?
 
Again hyou are straying away from the thread topic. The topic is the PALIN and the PALIN'S lack of ethics.

Well, the topic can't be PALIN's "lack" of ethics, every case brought against her has shown that she, and not the Democrats has ethics.

And since the saps that keep pushing this crap won't stop, it's fair game to point out just who it is that lacks ethics, namely them and their, your, Messiah.


If you have the proof that "certain representatives ' were ' paid "to vote for the bill" please start a thread I don't tolerate corruptiion from ether party.
But that is a separate thread . This is a PLAIN lack of ethics threaD.

Christ boy, are you so completely ignorant that you don't have the faintest idea of what pork is used for in Washington? Don't ask me to hold your hand on that.
 
How was he dangerous?

You mean a cop that willy nilly tasers his pain-in-the-ass stepson just to show him what it feels like? Tasering is a potentially dangerous act that in extreme cases can result in death. It's not something done on mere whim.

That was irresponsible and dangerous and could have opened the state to a significant liability lawsuit.
 
You mean a cop that willy nilly tasers his pain-in-the-ass stepson just to show him what it feels like? Tasering is a potentially dangerous act that in extreme cases can result in death. It's not something done on mere whim.

That was irresponsible and dangerous and could have opened the state to a significant liability lawsuit.

DON'T TASE ME BRO...er....STEP-DAD
 
Everything you said about Obama is correct. Palin is a blatant opportunist too, who puts her career ahead of what is good for America. If people on both sides were honest, they would be bashing the crap out of both of them, instead of slamming one while giving the other a pass because of the letter next to the name.

All politicians are blatant opportinists. What has Palin done that should be considered excessively or inapporpriately opportunistic?

Also, how is Palin capable of putting her career ahead of America's interests? Last time I checked, the governor of Alaska doesn't have much influence over Illinois.

Perhaps I would take these accusations a bit more seriously if there was less smoke and more fire. This woman has been viciously and repeatedly smeared and attacked from the moment she stepped onto the national stage. It's DISGUSTING.
 
Perhaps I would take these accusations a bit more seriously if there was less smoke and more fire. This woman has been viciously and repeatedly smeared and attacked from the moment she stepped onto the national stage. It's DISGUSTING.

*scratches head* What politician doesn't this happen to?
 
You are correct that Obama let a few people pass free. That was contrary to what he said during the " we need change we can believe in". As the old saying goes two wrongs do not make a right!!

Then why don't you ever participate or start threads concerning that? Can you show me ONE thread where you were critical of Obama?

Why are you obssessed with god damned Sarah Palin? Why must you dedicate so much time to destroying her credibility and reputation?
 
*scratches head* What politician doesn't this happen to?

Sarah Palin is the target of one of the most concerted, dishonest, and vicious smear campaigns I've ever seen.
 
Sarah Palin is the target of one of the most concerted, dishonest, and vicious smear campaigns I've ever seen.

The Clintons' including Chelsea top my list on smear campaigns. Palin had it easy compared to them.
 
Ever seen anything about his birth certificate or his Muslim father or his middle name Hussein or.....

Oh please. That stuff gets brushed aside as craziness. Those are mosquitoes in politics. Gov Palin faces sledge hammers. Constantly.
 
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