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    Re: AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    But Jall....that's just it. There was never any evidence or even claim that authority was used to harass Monica to engage in anything. She always stated that it was purely consensual. That is not sexual harassment in any perspective.

    People have sex with other employees in the workplace all the time. It doesn't make it sexual harassment because one person outranks the other.
    Disney, seriously...if anyone else was in a position of authority, let alone the authority of the POTUS, they would be hung out to dry by HR for having done what Clinton did.

    But my argument with Clinton isn't even that. It's that he lied about it under oath, which could send you or me to jail but simply made Clinton merely have a smudge on his record. If that.

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    Re: AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    Obviously they see her as a threat to the stronghold they thought they had on the female vote
    Yeah....that's right You did see that she polls worse with women than even Romney didn't you?
    So much for that one.
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    Re: AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yeah....that's right You did see that she polls worse with women than even Romney didn't you?
    So much for that one.
    Their smear campaign has been working - that's all those polls really show. When she first broke onto the scene women were flocking to her with hopes of breaking another glass ceiling for women.

    By the way, I'm not a flag bearer for Palin being the next president - I just resent the efforts to destroy her repute with all these false allegations and bogus ethics charges. If somebody thinks that she doesn't have the competency necessary for the White House, or doesn't think she shows enough presence and leadership skills to run this country, I'll buy that. And I would agree with them at this point (though would be willing to re-evaluate in 2012.)
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    Re: AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

    I see the usual suspects are in here with more of thier "accusation=guilt" crap.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Thank you Mr. V. Spot on.

    To all the republicans that are defending her as if this was guilty but excusing it, you best ask yourself how you rectify that with the philosophy of self responsability, owning up to your mistakes, and accepting consequences.
    What exactly has she done wrong? She was the victim of 15 baseless ethics probes and had to start a legal fund in order to pay for all the associated fees. Am I supposed to be mad at her because she used the word "official" in order to start the fund?

    And it's not like I'm a Republican either, I'm just a fair person and Sarah Palin is NOT getting a fair shake from the media or the rabid leftist whackos who harbor a sick and abnormal hatred for her.

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    Re: AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Ya see here standupchuck a prime example of the S being slinged. All I had to do was say Messiah and or dear leader.
    Of course, fixate on the term "Dear Leader" and ignore the substance of the post.

    The government owns GM.

    Obama rams bills through Congress that nobody has read.

    Obama has created the largest deficit in the history of America.

    Obama wants to ram through a health care bill he doesn't fully understand.

    GOD FORBID the words "Dear Leader" were mentioned. That gives you an excuse to ignore the substance of Scarecrow's post.

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    Re: AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    What exactly has she done wrong? She was the victim of 15 baseless ethics probes and had to start a legal fund in order to pay for all the associated fees. Am I supposed to be mad at her because she used the word "official" in order to start the fund?
    I'm not talking about people who are saying "Hey, nothings been proven that she did anything wrong here. This looks baseless. If its true, that's bad, but there's no proof of that yet, you're condemning her without evidence."

    I'm talking about people and posts who were jumping in basically stating that hell, even if she was guilty of doing what this person said she was doing, well hell...that's the DEMOCRATS fault and its perfectly okay and understandable that she did it. Basically, completely going against the conservative principles of self responsability and owning up to your mistakes, instead trying to place blame elsewhere right off and excusing her of any wrong doing. Take this post for example:

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    So what you're saying is that because Palin couldn't afford and shouldn't have had to use her own money to defend against the fourteen baseless ethics complaints the nazis have filed against her in the very recent past, they can now file an ethics complaint against her for trying to defend herself from them, when in fact she wouldn't have had to make this mistake if those nazis hadn't filed so many bogus claims already.

    How about if we change the ethics laws so that people who file ethics charges that are subsequently thrown out have to re-imburse the full cost of defending against them and have to pay the falsely accused a reparation not to be less than 100% of the costs their false allegations incurred?

    To put things in their proper perspective....did the Clintons pay any taxes on their legal defense funds when they pocketed the remainder of the funds when the legal issues were not pursued by Bush, and what favors were traded for donations to those funds?
    Its basically going off the assumption she's guilty of this and right off the bat placing blame everywhere else but on Palin and excusing it.

    Now, like I said in the post you quoted, I think its ridiculous to go after her based on a LEAKED unverified source saying she may have done something. But its AS ridiculous to have reacted to the original presentation of it as being fact in such a way as to try and just excuse the behavior and blame other people for it.

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    Re: AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    ...even if she was guilty of doing what this person said she was doing, well hell...that's the DEMOCRATS fault and its perfectly okay and understandable that she did it.
    It is perfectly okay and understandable. She's the victim of fifteen baseless ethics probes. She's incurred a mountain of legal fees because of it. She started a legal fund in order to pay for those legal fees and used the word "official" in the process. GOD FORBID!!!

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    Re: AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

    The left fear Sarah, they call her a idiot and say shes damaging to the party... yet they can't seem to leave her alone. They wanted her out of the governors seat, they got what they wanted and they are still scared of a normal American Citizen now. The left is a sad excuse for a party at the moment, I would of voted for JFK over McCain any day of the week. That's back when the left's representatives weren't so blatantly anti-American.

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    Re: AP NewsBreak: Palin implicated in ethics probe

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    Their smear campaign has been working - that's all those polls really show. When she first broke onto the scene women were flocking to her with hopes of breaking another glass ceiling for women.

    By the way, I'm not a flag bearer for Palin being the next president - I just resent the efforts to destroy her repute with all these false allegations and bogus ethics charges. If somebody thinks that she doesn't have the competency necessary for the White House, or doesn't think she shows enough presence and leadership skills to run this country, I'll buy that. And I would agree with them at this point (though would be willing to re-evaluate in 2012.)
    I'm predicting, that at this pace, the smear campaign will start to have the opposite effect desired by the Liberals.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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