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    U.S. withheld data on risks of distracted driving

    U.S. withheld data on risks of distracted driving

    NYT: Data shelved on distracted driver risk - The New York Times- msnbc.com


    In 2003, researchers at a federal agency proposed a long-term study of 10,000 drivers to assess the safety risk posed by cellphone use behind the wheel.

    They sought the study based on evidence that such multitasking was a serious and growing threat on America’s roadways.

    But such an ambitious study never happened. And the researchers’ agency, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, decided not to make public hundreds of pages of research and warnings about the use of phones by drivers — in part, officials say, because of concerns about angering Congress.


    This is sad, they are upset over a stufy that didn't happen and data withheld. Now anyone who drives knows that idiots who talk on the phone and drive, or especcially txt and drive are as bad as drunks on the road. Do we really need a new law, or government studies to tell us?

    We already have a law. Its called Careless or Reckless driving..... Jeesh....
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    Re: U.S. withheld data on risks of distracted driving

    because of concerns about angering Congress
    Seriously? Who in congress were they worried about angering?

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    Re: U.S. withheld data on risks of distracted driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This is sad, they are upset over a stufy that didn't happen and data withheld. Now anyone who drives knows that idiots who talk on the phone and drive, or especcially txt and drive are as bad as drunks on the road. Do we really need a new law, or government studies to tell us?

    We already have a law. Its called Careless or Reckless driving..... Jeesh....
    I'm not a big fan of cellphones in general. Not that I don't have one, because I do. It's cheaper and more convenient than having a landline. It has caused the downfall of conversation, though. Have you listened to the pointless conversations that people have on their cellphones in public? People now call each other whenever they get a wild hair up their ass about the most pointless crap. These types of conversations can definitely wait until someone isn't being otherwise occupied by driving or whatever. People managed for decades to drive without having to have a phone conversation, I don't know why they feel the need to do it now. None of these conversations are so important that they are worth risking both your life as well as other drivers on the road.

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    Re: U.S. withheld data on risks of distracted driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I'm not a big fan of cellphones in general. Not that I don't have one, because I do. It's cheaper and more convenient than having a landline. It has caused the downfall of conversation, though. Have you listened to the pointless conversations that people have on their cellphones in public? People now call each other whenever they get a wild hair up their ass about the most pointless crap. These types of conversations can definitely wait until someone isn't being otherwise occupied by driving or whatever. People managed for decades to drive without having to have a phone conversation, I don't know why they feel the need to do it now. None of these conversations are so important that they are worth risking both your life as well as other drivers on the road.



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    Re: U.S. withheld data on risks of distracted driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This is sad, they are upset over a stufy that didn't happen and data withheld. Now anyone who drives knows that idiots who talk on the phone and drive, or especcially txt and drive are as bad as drunks on the road. Do we really need a new law, or government studies to tell us?

    We already have a law. Its called Careless or Reckless driving..... Jeesh....
    Abstinence only education doesn't work. Better to give them all the information and teach them how to drive and talk on the phone safely because they're going to do it anyway.

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    Re: U.S. withheld data on risks of distracted driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Abstinence only education doesn't work. Better to give them all the information and teach them how to drive and talk on the phone safely because they're going to do it anyway.
    What a remarkably useless analogy. I suppose we might as well do the same for drunken driving, then?
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    Re: U.S. withheld data on risks of distracted driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Abstinence only education doesn't work. Better to give them all the information and teach them how to drive and talk on the phone safely because they're going to do it anyway.


    I have no problem with that. Read between my lines.


    If you are on the phone and driving normally, no problem.

    if you are in the fast lane in a 65 swerving doing 40, you need a reckless driving ticket.



    If you are in an accident that causes a fatality and the police find a txt half typed. Vehicular manslaughter.
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    Re: U.S. withheld data on risks of distracted driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Edify_Always_In_All_Ways View Post
    What a remarkably useless analogy. I suppose we might as well do the same for drunken driving, then?
    Funny you should say that, because in this thread on teen pregnancy http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...finds.html...a pro-abstinence person is quoted saying:
    "In every other area of public policy - food, drugs, alcohol - we tell children what is the best choice. It seems very bizarre that the sex education establishment rejects the idea that we should talk to kids about what is best for them. We don't take vodka to drivers education because children will drink and drive."
    If it's ok to condone activities so long as they're "safe", then we need to educate drivers on using blue-tooth, general multitasking, and smiler.

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    Re: U.S. withheld data on risks of distracted driving

    It's already been banned in this country. The government launched an initiative which involved brutal TV adverts to show the dangers of talking on the phone when driving. If you get caught I believe you can be fined or have your license taken away. It's a dangerous practice.
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    Re: U.S. withheld data on risks of distracted driving

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I have no problem with that. Read between my lines.


    If you are on the phone and driving normally, no problem.

    if you are in the fast lane in a 65 swerving doing 40, you need a reckless driving ticket.



    If you are in an accident that causes a fatality and the police find a txt half typed. Vehicular manslaughter.
    Agreed!

    But what about alcohol? Some people drive better after 2 drinks than others; or 2 joints for that matter
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