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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Good Lord. Is there nothing people won't blame on Bush?

    Let's just take a look at the sexualization of young girls in the last 10 years. Something that had nothing to do with George Bush, BTW. Just off the top of my head, as a mother, these things have been a concern to me:

    1) Clothing giants like Abercrombie & Fitch marketting sexuality more than clothing. This clothier as well as many others martketting thong panties to girls as young as 7 & 8

    2) Disgusting t shirts and jeans targetted at young girls with messages like "juicy" splayed across the buttocks of a 10 year old. If you have a pr-pubescent girl, just try to find clothes for her that don't make her look like a slut.

    3) Videos that are nothing short of soft core porn.

    4) Even kids shows have sexuality snuck in. iCarly, which is a show targetted for tweens and younger have a young Carly wearing push up bras in order to get the attention of the boy her BFF also likes.

    5) Zoe 101. Britney Spears lil sis gracing the cover of magazine after magazine glorifying her teen preganancy. Little girls (and boys for that matter) know exactly who this kid is and look up to her. Before anyone jumps in with Bristol Palin, she is not a tween star on a tween network. She's also a but older than this spears kid, and her pregancy was never glorified in the press.

    6) Drake & Josh - another kids show targetted for pre-teens (if a teen watches that show, they are probably dorks) which praises one kid for always "making out" with all the girls in school while blowing off school work. The teachers fall in love with him and give him good grades. That's contrasted by his geeky step brother who works hard, studies hard and is awkward with the girls. He never gets a break. What's the message there?

    Honestly, kids are bombarded with this garbage at a very early age. It's silly to blame GWB. If anything, he may have helped some kids decide they didn't need to be like what's being shoved down their throats as cool.
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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Reading is great, you should try it sometime:



    Where does the CDC state the cause?

    This is correlation only.

    99% of people who die had a meal within the last 24 houres. ZMOG MEALS KILL!!!

    Liberals are so ****ing stupid.
    I do read. I've read that condoms are only 86% effective at stopping pregnancy. More teens start prokin', more teens are going to get pregnant. It's a statistical inevidibility.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    Good Lord. Is there nothing people won't blame on Bush?

    Let's just take a look at the sexualization of young girls in the last 10 years. Something that had nothing to do with George Bush, BTW. Just off the top of my head, as a mother, these things have been a concern to me:

    1) Clothing giants like Abercrombie & Fitch marketting sexuality more than clothing. This clothier as well as many others martketting thong panties to girls as young as 7 & 8

    2) Disgusting t shirts and jeans targetted at young girls with messages like "juicy" splayed across the buttocks of a 10 year old. If you have a pr-pubescent girl, just try to find clothes for her that don't make her look like a slut.

    3) Videos that are nothing short of soft core porn.

    4) Even kids shows have sexuality snuck in. iCarly, which is a show targetted for tweens and younger have a young Carly wearing push up bras in order to get the attention of the boy her BFF also likes.

    5) Zoe 101. Britney Spears lil sis gracing the cover of magazine after magazine glorifying her teen preganancy. Little girls (and boys for that matter) know exactly who this kid is and look up to her. Before anyone jumps in with Bristol Palin, she is not a tween star on a tween network. She's also a but older than this spears kid, and her pregancy was never glorified in the press.

    6) Drake & Josh - another kids show targetted for pre-teens (if a teen watches that show, they are probably dorks) which praises one kid for always "making out" with all the girls in school while blowing off school work. The teachers fall in love with him and give him good grades. That's contrasted by his geeky step brother who works hard, studies hard and is awkward with the girls. He never gets a break. What's the message there?

    Honestly, kids are bombarded with this garbage at a very early age. It's silly to blame GWB. If anything, he may have helped some kids decide they didn't need to be like what's being shoved down their throats as cool.
    I think you make some good point here, Chuck, but I don't believe it to be the whole story. There's no doubt that advertising/TV/movies/etc, have been "sexified" but it has been happening for a while now. And while it was happening, teen pregnancy declined. So to me, there's more to the story.

    And this is not a bash Bush thread... it is based-on facts. And the fact is, teen pregnancy sharply went up during his tenure.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I do read. I've read that condoms are only 86% effective at stopping pregnancy. More teens start prokin', more teens are going to get pregnant. It's a statistical inevidibility.
    Wow that has nothing to do with the OP or the thread.

    If you can't show that Bush's policies caused more teens to become pregnant, then you have nothing.

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    And this is not a bash Bush thread... it is based-on facts. And the fact is, teen pregnancy sharply went up during his tenure.
    But not because of Bush

    He just happened to be in office. Coincidence only.

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Wow that has nothing to do with the OP or the thread.

    If you can't show that Bush's policies caused more teens to become pregnant, then you have nothing.
    Where did I say that Bush's policies caused more teen pregnancies?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I think you make some good point here, Chuck, but I don't believe it to be the whole story. There's no doubt that advertising/TV/movies/etc, have been "sexified" but it has been happening for a while now. And while it was happening, teen pregnancy declined. So to me, there's more to the story.

    And this is not a bash Bush thread... it is based-on facts. And the fact is, teen pregnancy sharply went up during his tenure.
    There's nothing to say Bush influenced that. Those tv shows got much worse in the last 10 years, as did the slutty clothing. I almost forgot about the internet. Nude pics within 1 click. Chat rooms where kids brag about sexual trysts. Cell phones where young kids send nude pics (oft times to people they met in chatrooms). The decline of the traditonal American family where 1 parent is home after school to make sure the kids aren't sucking each other off in the basement. Bush had nothing to do with these things, and if he had ever stepped in, the outcry of censorship, morality imposing & other feigned outrages would be heard from east to west.

    It's not our president. It's our culture. Off on a tanget here. I'm so sick of people saying Americans are uptight about sex. Our culture is nothing BUT sex. I was reading a gardening site last night, and a pair of t*ts were staring me in the face.
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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Where did I say that Bush's policies caused more teen pregnancies?
    Where did I say you claimed such?

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    And this is not a bash Bush thread... it is based-on facts. And the fact is, teen pregnancy sharply went up during his tenure.
    Three words:
    Causation v correlation

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    But not because of Bush

    He just happened to be in office. Coincidence only.
    After a long decline in teen pregnancy, it's just coincidence?

    I don't buy it.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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