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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Woah woah woah. Back up and stop right there.

    Is US preaching to Europe about war especially considering it has started how many in the last 50 years?
    I would love to see the list of wars started by the US over the last 50 years. Let's see what they are teaching you Euro's these days in school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No one says Europe has a perfect history, for a continent so old. You are bound to find bloodshed.
    When I read yours and Pete's posts, one gets the impression that Europeans are all that and the US has its head up its ass. I am just putting your farcical history into the proper perspective.

    Your notions about the benevolence of Soviet involvement in WWII and its contributions to Hitlerís demise are amusing at best, but historically lacking many facts.

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Yes Bush preached abstinence; most parents do the same unless they are freaks. Where is that a BAD idea and how is the connection being made by the thread author that the increase has anything to do with Bush's policies and belief in abstinence?
    Freaks? How about "realists"?
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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Which Public School system would this have been?
    The small town in Montana that I grew up in. I would imagine that there are similar examples in other small towns across America. Some of the stories I've heard are incredibly bizarre and somewhat hilarious because kids my age at the time really had no clue what they were doing. That sure didn't stop them from trying though.

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Freaks? How about "realists"?
    So parents who do not preach abstinence to their children are just being realists? Do such parents even exist?

    I am having a hard time thinking that anyone, who is not a freak, with kids hasn't said that having sex before you are an adult or even married is a BAD idea.

    Do you know of any NORMAL parents who are "realists" and say "look kids, I know you are going to have sex so just be safe, use a condom and do it right? "

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So parents who do not preach abstinence to their children are just being realists? Do such parents even exist?

    I am having a hard time thinking that anyone, who is not a freak, with kids hasn't said that having sex before you are an adult or even married is a BAD idea.

    Do you know of any NORMAL parents who are "realists" and say "look kids, I know you are going to have sex so just be safe, use a condom and do it right?"
    My parents explained that they would prefer I refrain from having sex until I was an adult, but that they understood the pressures and poor judgement that come with being a teenager. My dad and I talked about the importance of safe sex(knowing your partner's sexual history and using contraceptives) on many an occasion. I guess my parents are freaks.
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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    The small town in Montana that I grew up in. I would imagine that there are similar examples in other small towns across America. Some of the stories I've heard are incredibly bizarre and somewhat hilarious because kids my age at the time really had no clue what they were doing. That sure didn't stop them from trying though.
    Perhaps that would be because it is a "small" town and they typically do not have the same problems the "big" towns have.

    Yours is more the exception than the rule and as my argument suggested, abstinence is not what is being taught in the public school systems but rather is part OF that education and Bush's preachingís about abstinence cannot factually be linked by any stretch of reality to the increase in teen pregnancies or STDs as the premise of the thread topic/article and author have intimated.

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote: Originally Posted by Truth Detector
    So parents who do not preach abstinence to their children are just being realists? Do such parents even exist?

    I am having a hard time thinking that anyone, who is not a freak, with kids hasn't said that having sex before you are an adult or even married is a BAD idea.

    Do you know of any NORMAL parents who are "realists" and say "look kids, I know you are going to have sex so just be safe, use a condom and do it right?"

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    My parents explained that they would prefer I refrain from having sex until I was an adult, but that they understood the pressures and poor judgement that come with being a teenager.
    In other words, they preached abstinence and are therefore NORMAL. Thank you for making my case for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    My dad and I talked about the importance of safe sex(knowing your partner's sexual history and using contraceptives) and many an occasion. I guess my parents are freaks.
    But you clearly stated that your "parents explained that they would prefer I refrain from having sex until I was an adult."

    In other words, they preached abstinence.

    When did you and your dad presumably have that discussion about the importance of "safe sex;" was it after you admitted you were ignoring their sage advice and having sex?

    By the way, do you have children?

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Thankfully non existent.
    You lost me when you mentioned her. You shouldn't have mentioned that woman.
    England left with her. There is but a faint shadow left of your former country. It'll be satellite destination of the Middle East soon the way your population is shifting, and the way you're compromising your tradtions to accomodate them.

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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    In other words, they preached abstinence and are therefore NORMAL. Thank you for making my case for me.

    But you clearly stated that your "parents explained that they would prefer I refrain from having sex until I was an adult."

    In other words, they preached abstinence.
    They preached both abstinence and safe sex, not solely abstinence.

    When did you and your dad presumably have that discussion about the importance of "safe sex;" was it after you admitted you were ignoring their sage advice and having sex?
    No, it was some time during my sophomore year of high school.

    By the way, do you have children?
    I do not.
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    Re: Teen pregnancy and disease rates rose sharply during Bush years, agency finds

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Come to think about it, what exactly has the US invented all on its own since it came to existence?
    Are you serious? LOL

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