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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    It's not the being against, but the hope that the President will fail. If he fails, then one is essentially hoping for bad times in America.
    If Obama succeeds in getting cap and tax and socialized healthcare through, bad times in America are certain.

    His failure in getting his policies through is the only hope America has.

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Truly sad. Challenger candidates have been running on "hope and change" since about 1812, but yet it still works on the mindless.
    I wouldn't say they are mindless, just idealists who refuse to face reality and choose instead to live in fantasy land.

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I'm certainly not impressed with his performance thus far. Though, I do feel it is early to judge him as a President overall considering that he has been President less than a year. Though, hopefully this will be a bit of a reality check to the people out there who think he's God's gift. I'm not saying all Obama supporters are like this, but there were a fair amount who were.
    Personally I think the conservatives play up the hype of "god's gift" more then Democrats. I don't see those that support Obama referring to him in any messianic way and simply just agree with policies. Since when has agreeing with a political leaders policies equate to worship?
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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    If Obama succeeds in getting cap and tax and socialized healthcare through, bad times in America are certain.

    His failure in getting his policies through is the only hope America has.
    I'm positive that bad times are on the horizon and maybe it will be a good lesson for us. I don't think that America is doomed, though. We are far stronger than I think we give ourselves credit for.

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    If Obama succeeds in getting cap and tax and socialized healthcare through, bad times in America are certain.

    His failure in getting his policies through is the only hope America has.
    I do not get all this socialist rhetoric. The only legislaton that I have opposed so far is the Cap and Trade. Other than that, I see no sign of full socialism. I think this talk is hyperpartisan lunacy. No one accused G.W. Bush of attempting a right-wing, executive coup to become dictator when he grabbed as much power for the executive as possible.

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Personally I think the conservatives play up the hype of "god's gift" more then Democrats. I don't see those that support Obama referring to him in any messianic way and simply just agree with policies. Since when has agreeing with a political leaders policies equate to worship?
    Well, I'm definitely not referring to the average Obama supporter. I've seen people who have no clue about his policies and just blindly support him because he's a Democrat or because he's not Bush. I think the whole "messiah" idea is ridiculously overblown and just a cheap jab. If a majority of Obama supporters really viewed him as a messianic figure these poll numbers wouldn't be reflecting that the public is losing trust in him.

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I'm positive that bad times are on the horizon and maybe it will be a good lesson for us. I don't think that America is doomed, though. We are far stronger than I think we give ourselves credit for.
    We survived 8 years of George Bush. If that isn't proof what is?
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I'm positive that bad times are on the horizon and maybe it will be a good lesson for us. I don't think that America is doomed, though. We are far stronger than I think we give ourselves credit for.
    Agreed, except for one very important point. If Obama succeeds in government-sponsored healthcare, it will be impossible to undo for the next conservative administration.

    How can private insurance companies that operate on a profit compete with a government plan that can print money whenever it needs it and doesn't need to show a profit.

    It can't. Then, once socialized healthcare is in, how do you possibly undo it? You can't.

    Imagine the government decides if your 90-year-old mother is "worth" the expense of that bypass surgery she needs. Will the (liberal) government be willing to pay for childbirth expenses for a Downs Syndrome baby, or will they only be willing to pay for the abortion?

    It's already happening in other countries, including north of the border. I don't want to see it happening here.

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Agreed, except for one very important point. If Obama succeeds in government-sponsored healthcare, it will be impossible to undo for the next conservative administration.

    How can private insurance companies that operate on a profit compete with a government plan that can print money whenever it needs it and doesn't need to show a profit.
    And maybe that's good. People who so badly want socialized healthcare will find out the reality of it. Maybe they won't be so happy with that reality.

    It can't. Then, once socialized healthcare is in, how do you possibly undo it? You can't.
    If it can be implemented it can certainly be undone. Though, it will definitely take a long time to undo.

    Imagine the government decides if your 90-year-old mother is "worth" the expense of that bypass surgery she needs. Will the (liberal) government be willing to pay for childbirth expenses for a Downs Syndrome baby, or will they only be willing to pay for the abortion?
    I understand that giving the government that much control terrifies people, but I think that the uprising that would result in the government making such decisions would be so huge. I could be completely wrong, but I don't see them ever making decisions like that. I'm just trying to remain optimistic, which definitely could come back to bite me in the ass later on.

    It's already happening in other countries, including north of the border. I don't want to see it happening here.
    I completely understand that.

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Personally I think the conservatives play up the hype of "god's gift" more then Democrats. I don't see those that support Obama referring to him in any messianic way and simply just agree with policies. Since when has agreeing with a political leaders policies equate to worship?

    Nah, it never happens from the left.


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