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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Sure they would, as the $9k received isn't dependent on the amout any one person paid in, but the total amount paid in divided by the total number of people.

    No matter what they paid, a family of 4 gets $9k.
    So it's OK to distribute wealth in that way but not OK to give health care in place of a $9k check?
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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

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    Please list Obama's qualifications. The man has never accomplished a thing in his pathetic life.
    He was voted into office by the citizens of America. That is the only real qualification required for someone to be President.
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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    So it's OK to distribute wealth in that way but not OK to give health care in place of a $9k check?
    If the $ has to be spent, its better to give it to the people themselves and let them chose what to do with it.

    Couple that with the elimination of all third-party payment entities (which will drive health care costs down while driving up quality of care), and everyone will be in pretty good shape.

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    He was voted into office by the citizens of America. That is the only real qualification required for someone to be President.
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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If the $ has to be spent, its better to give it to the people themselves and let them chose what to do with it.

    Couple that with the elimination of all third-party payment entities (which will drive health care costs down while driving up quality of care), and everyone will be in pretty good shape.
    Let me see if I understand correctly. Instead of providing health care to those that qualify for Medicare/Medicaid you are saying just cut them an annual check for $9k and let them do with it what they want, but hope they use it on health care. So if they don't use it on health care, which many won't, the tax payers will then be incurring additional costs when these individuals go to the hospital without health care and unable to pay their bills since they have no money and spend the $9k on other things.
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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by BoyKagome View Post
    -coughs.-Acorn.-Coughs.-
    What is the point you are trying to make? Acron, not American citizens, voted Obama into office? Acorn rigged the election?
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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Let me see if I understand correctly. Instead of providing health care to those that qualify for Medicare/Medicaid you are saying just cut them an annual check for $9k and let them do with it what they want, but hope they use it on health care.
    No.
    Cut a check to everyone for ~$2275.00, not just those who would receive Medicare/aid. Every family of 4 would then get ~$9100 for them to use to buy health care as they saw fit.

    So if they don't use it on health care, which many won't, the tax payers will then be incurring additional costs...
    No. They wont.
    You missed the part where I said that if people do not use the money for health care, they're screwed.

    Freedom is the ability to choose.
    But, all choices have consequences; the consequence of you not wisely choosing what to do with yoru health care money are huge bills that YOU have to pay.

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Not true -- he got 2 books published!!

    Of course, if that's what passes for qualification to be President, then Limbaugh is qualified as well.


    I still think one of the most patently absurd things about Obama and his HUGE ego is that he's written two memoirs already, and he never authored a single bill in Congress.

    I mean, how many presidents have written even one memoir on their life BEFORE they were president. Shouldn't you have to do something first to "remember" it?

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You missed the part where I said that if people do not use the money for health care, they're screwed..
    The problem with that little tidbit, is that you are basically saying if the parents of a child are irresponsible, you are more than willing to have a child suffer or even die.

    I would even be willing to compromise with your idea that the instead of the government cutting a check to people, they cut directly to the health care provider.

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    Re: Poll: Public losing trust in President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The problem with that little tidbit, is that you are basically saying if the parents of a child are irresponsible, you are more than willing to have a child suffer or even die.
    Personal freedom = personal responsibility.
    If a kid dies because of the parents' irresponsibility, then the parents are at fault. The blame belongs to them, and no one else.

    I would even be willing to compromise with your idea that the instead of the government cutting a check to people, they cut directly to the health care provider.
    3rd party providers drive up costs and drive down quality of care.
    Best thing is for everyone to pay for their own goods and services.

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