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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    But I'm not going to kiss every cop's ass because they think they are somehow superior to me.
    There you go again. Repeating the same paranoia isn't going to make it true.

    If you want to suck up to a cop just because they are a cop even if they are being aggressive towards you in an unwarranted way then that's fine for you. I'm just not that way. Deal with it.
    Unwarranted way.
    If something looks suspicious, and police approach it in a timid manner, it can be played off well by an offender or would be offender.

    If something looks suspicious, and police approach it in an aggressive manner, it often leads to results.

    If something looks suspicious and and police approach it in an aggressive manner, and you act like a jack ass back because 'no po-lease be talkin' to me like 'dat', then you are going to cause furthur aggression and furthur problems on yourself.

    Its pure idiocy that you can't figure that one out yet.

    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    . I don't care who they are.
    "I don't be carin' who they be bein' because I is one baaaaad motha ****a. "

    This is pretty much what your statements translated into so far. Wayy too much pride.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    There you go again. Repeating the same paranoia isn't going to make it true.


    Unwarranted way.
    If something looks suspicious, and police approach it in a timid manner, it can be played off well by an offender or would be offender.

    If something looks suspicious, and police approach it in an aggressive manner, it often leads to results.

    If something looks suspicious and and police approach it in an aggressive manner, and you act like a jack ass back because 'no po-lease be talkin' to me like 'dat', then you are going to cause furthur aggression and furthur problems on yourself.

    Its pure idiocy that you can't figure that one out yet.

    What you obviously can't seem to figure out is that I have my own personal views on this and there's nothing you can say or do that will change them. Call me what you want, judge the situation how you want but you aren't going to change my opinion that some cops are assholes. The fact that you somehow think that cops are worthy of ass kissing speaks volumes about your obvious and blatant bias.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    "I don't be carin' who they be bein' because I is one baaaaad motha ****a. "

    This is pretty much what your statements translated into so far. Wayy too much pride.
    Wow, that's crazy. I don't recall saying anything remotely like that. Keep putting words in my mouth though. This is getting entertaining.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Are you saying that there aren't racist cops out there? I've met a fair amount, especially around this area.
    Im certain somewhere there are.

    But what is sometimes perceived as racism, and what is really racism are two totally different things.

    I work in a predominantly white area of my city. Blacks make up maybe 10% of my overall career arrests. Yet of those 10%, i'd wager that 70% have called me racist while I was doing my job. I made no mention of race during our encounter, yet race was still brought up, un-justifiably by the offender.

    Playing the race card against the police is a traditional way to try to deflect blame and responsibility for what someone did wrong, and thus, has no merit in my opinion.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Wow, that's crazy. I don't recall saying anything remotely like that. Keep putting words in my mouth though. This is getting entertaining.

    Just like you keep putting thoughts in the heads of police officers?

    I notice you have failed to even address that point brought up by me, why is that sir patrick?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Im certain somewhere there are.

    But what is sometimes perceived as racism, and what is really racism are two totally different things.
    I agree that far too often people pull the race card. Sometimes it is warranted, sometimes it isn't.

    I work in a predominantly white area of my city. Blacks make up maybe 10% of my overall career arrests. Yet of those 10%, i'd wager that 70% have called me racist while I was doing my job. I made no mention of race during our encounter, yet race was still brought up, un-justifiably by the offender.
    Like I said, many times it is unwarranted. Many people have been called racists for completely absurd and ridiculous reasons. Unfortunately, because of this type of behavior it's sometimes difficult to discern the legitimate complaints from the absurd ones.

    Playing the race card against the police is a traditional way to try to deflect blame and responsibility for what someone did wrong, and thus, has no merit in my opinion.
    In many situations I'm sure it is. However, I've met a fair amount of cops from my area who proudly admit that they are racist. I've seen them hassle black people for even daring to step foot in my hometown. Obviously this type of behavior shouldn't be tolerated.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Just like you keep putting thoughts in the heads of police officers?

    I notice you have failed to even address that point brought up by me, why is that sir patrick?
    How exactly am I putting thoughts in the heads of police officers? All I said is that I'm not going to suck up to a cop. Why is that so difficult for you to accept?

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    How exactly am I putting thoughts in the heads of police officers? All I said is that I'm not going to suck up to a cop. Why is that so difficult for you to accept?
    Please follow long...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Nah, it's not a pride issue. I just don't kiss anyone's ass because they believe they are somehow superior to me. I am polite to people until they are impolite to me. It's that simple. You can make any conclusions you want, but it changes nothing. I'm not a fan of people with big egos and there are plenty of cops out there who have them. There are also plenty of great cops out there who are nice people. Cops are human beings after all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I don't think cops are being too mean to me. I've seen certain cops be unnecessarily aggressive towards me and friends of mine in the past where it was completely unwarranted. Those cops are egotistical assholes. Are all cops this way? Absolutely not. As I said earlier, I've met plenty of cops who are great people. But I'm not going to kiss every cop's ass because they think they are somehow superior to me. If you want to suck up to a cop just because they are a cop even if they are being aggressive towards you in an unwarranted way then that's fine for you. I'm just not that way. Deal with it.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Please follow long...
    Are you saying there aren't cops with superiority complexes? I was speaking of hypothetical situations, by the way. I figured that was kind of obvious. I apologize for not making it clearer.

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