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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    The president and race has nothing to do with the police report and what this woman is now saying. If you want to call the president a race baiter make another thread.


    Gates/obama are race baiters, has everything to do with this thread. Just because you don't like talking about it.... no my problem friend.
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Gates/obama are race baiters, has everything to do with this thread. Just because you don't like talking about it.... no my problem friend.

    Well considering you brought this up in regards to my reply about the woman claiming she never said they were black is entirely irrelevant. But please shaolin master tell us how Obama is a race baiter since you seem to be in the know as they say

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Actually after Gates asked for his ID again in the report he told Gates he'd have to come outside. Again there are two sides to every story we have yet to hear Gates' full side and everyone has focused on Crowley's side. So again I ask what harm would it have done if the officer just left the property? Obviously he felt some threat to his authority because Gates called other officers to the scene.
    The cop himself has stated he was attempting to radio information in, but couldn't hear or be heard due to the noise level inside the house.

    I'm much more likely to trust the cop, even more so because it's more logical then the alternative and is backed up by witnesses, then I am to trust a professor whos first inclination is to scream racism at a cop doing nothing more then investigating a possible break-in.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Well considering you brought this up in regards to my reply about the woman claiming she never said they were black is entirely irrelevant. But please shaolin master tell us how Obama is a race baiter since you seem to be in the know as they say


    Uhm did you watch his healthcare speech where he claimed he would be shot, and about the stupidity of the cambridge police?


    Do you recall where he said his grandmothers racism was "typical of white people"?


    did you read "Dreams of my father" "white mans greed runs a world in need"?


    Have you been to his church?
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    The cop himself has stated he was attempting to radio information in, but couldn't hear or be heard due to the noise level inside the house.

    I'm much more likely to trust the cop, even more so because it's more logical then the alternative and is backed up by witnesses, then I am to trust a professor whos first inclination is to scream racism at a cop doing nothing more then investigating a possible break-in.
    but once again this whole racism thing is based off the cop's testimony. So we have yet to hear the whole story

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Uhm did you watch his healthcare speech where he claimed he would be shot, and about the stupidity of the cambridge police?


    Do you recall where he said his grandmothers racism was "typical of white people"?


    did you read "Dreams of my father" "white mans greed runs a world in need"?


    Have you been to his church?
    Yeah I actually did watch his healthcare speech where in the speech did he claim he would be shot? Do you have the line with the preceding and following sentence to provide context?

    Obama's remarks on the stupidity comment: “The Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home.”

    He said it was stupid for the police to arrest someone when there was proof they were in their own home. Not race-baiting.

    His grandma quote: "The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, there's a reaction that's been bred into our experiences that don't go away, and that sometimes comes out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society."

    It was not about his grandmother being racist just acting certain ways towards people she doesn't know. Read into it how you like its obvious you hear what you want to hear.

    Also do you have the full paragraph from page 293 in Dreams of My Father where he quotes Wright as saying that?

    Okay so he went to a church where Wright was pastor but honestly how many of Wright's sermons have you seen other than small clips on youtube. I'm sure I could pick crazy quotes out of millions from your pastor as well and even so you're talking guilt by association. So you're saying part of the reason you think Obama is a race baiter is because of Wright. This would be the same as saying McCain believes in Assassination because of the crazies at his rally who shouted kill him when mentioning Obama. Not entirely a fair assumption. More proof needed.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    (1) engages in fighting or in tumultuous conduct;
    (2) makes unreasonable noise and continues to do so after being asked to stop; or
    (3) disrupts a lawful assembly of persons;

    Okay so if anything Gates may have reached one of the clauses in 2. But 2 alone isn't enough to arrest someone. Being inside his own home he did not fit clause 3.

    Also in Commonwealth v. Mulvey, 57 Mass. App. Ct. 579 it was determined that the presence of a police officer is not enough for a place to be considered to be a public area. Thus Gates' behavior was not considered to be public in accordance to the findings in Commonwealth v Mulvey.
    Yo, the racist bigot professor was making unreasonable noises and continued to do so after he was asked to grow up...er calm down, and he did so before a crowd of lawfully assembled persons, therefore satisfying both (2) and (3).

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Crowley had asked Gates to come outside even that is in the police report. If everything was done properly the charges wouldn't have been dropped. Once again according to Commonwealth v Melvey the appearance of a police officer does not connotate public behavior. The people were gathered already because the police were on scene.
    I love the ignorant juvies that claim the charges wouldn't have been dropped.

    Charges of disorderly conduct are almost always dropped if there was no assualt, because the DA simply has better things to do with his time than spank babies.

    Also, this particular violator was politically well connected and the DA was perfectly aware that the story of this racist pig's overreaction was international news, and he did what he could to calm the furor caused by the racist pig now in his jail.

    Seriously, learn how things work before getting so excited.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Yeah I actually did watch his healthcare speech where in the speech did he claim he would be shot? Do you have the line with the preceding and following sentence to provide context?

    Obama's remarks on the stupidity comment: “The Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home.”

    He said it was stupid for the police to arrest someone when there was proof they were in their own home. Not race-baiting.
    Race baiting.

    That ignorant boob of a messiah you're supporting flapped his jaws over a circumstance he had no direct knowledge of, but automatically blamed the white boy.

    Racist.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Yeah I actually did watch his healthcare speech where in the speech did he claim he would be shot? Do you have the line with the preceding and following sentence to provide context?

    Obama's remarks on the stupidity comment: “The Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home.”

    He said it was stupid for the police to arrest someone when there was proof they were in their own home. Not race-baiting.

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    I am not even going to wast time on this....



    His grandma quote: "The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, there's a reaction that's been bred into our experiences that don't go away, and that sometimes comes out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society."

    It was not about his grandmother being racist just acting certain ways towards people she doesn't know. Read into it how you like its obvious you hear what you want to hear.

    You are kidding right? :





    Also do you have the full paragraph from page 293 in Dreams of My Father where he quotes Wright as saying that?

    Okay so he went to a church where Wright was pastor but honestly how many of Wright's sermons have you seen other than small clips on youtube. I'm sure I could pick crazy quotes out of millions from your pastor as well and even so you're talking guilt by association. So you're saying part of the reason you think Obama is a race baiter is because of Wright. This would be the same as saying McCain believes in Assassination because of the crazies at his rally who shouted kill him when mentioning Obama. Not entirely a fair assumption. More proof needed.



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