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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, I have been in identical situations. When people got a hard time from a cop, it wasn't because they were being, "perfectly", polite to the officer.

    Don't ever wonder why you get pressed by a cop. If you do, come back and read your comments here
    No, I'm sure that I have been hassled for that very reason. It's no mystery to me. I view cops no different than anyone else. If you are polite to me, I will be polite back. If you are an asshole, I'm going to be an asshole. Like I said, I'm not going to kiss anyone's ass and be a subservient coward just because someone has a badge. A piece of metal doesn't automatically earn respect from me.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    No, I'm sure that I have been hassled for that very reason. It's no mystery to me. I view cops no different than anyone else. If you are polite to me, I will be polite back. If you are an asshole, I'm going to be an asshole. Like I said, I'm not going to kiss anyone's ass and be a subservient coward just because someone has a badge. A piece of metal doesn't automatically earn respect from me.
    Well, then you can't complain about cops when it's you that is bein un-cooperative.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    No, I'm sure that I have been hassled for that very reason. It's no mystery to me. I view cops no different than anyone else. If you are polite to me, I will be polite back. If you are an asshole, I'm going to be an asshole. Like I said, I'm not going to kiss anyone's ass and be a subservient coward just because someone has a badge. A piece of metal doesn't automatically earn respect from me.
    Well, then don't be surprised if a cop is a little edgy around you. Remember the scum they deal with on a routine basis, so I understand why they can be a little less than trusting at first.

    As far as Gates, just another ridiculous example of tyring to make everything about race. Then he wonders why these claims lack credibility.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Well, then don't be surprised if a cop is a little edgy around you. Remember the scum they deal with on a routine basis, so I understand why they can be a little less than trusting at first.
    That's right and it's up to the subject to be smart enough to understand that and do things to slow the tempo rather than increase the tempo of the situation. I guess some people just aren't that smart.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, then you can't complain about cops when it's you that is bein un-cooperative.
    Refusing to kiss their ass is being un-cooperative?

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Well, then don't be surprised if a cop is a little edgy around you. Remember the scum they deal with on a routine basis, so I understand why they can be a little less than trusting at first.
    I understand that and I would certainly give a bigger city cop quite a bit more leeway in that area. However, around where I live the most they have to deal with are stray dogs and speeders. Not a lot happens here crime-wise.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's right and it's up to the subject to be smart enough to understand that and do things to slow the tempo rather than increase the tempo of the situation. I guess some people just aren't that smart.
    Just because I refuse to kiss their ass doesn't mean that I'm going to provoke anything or "increase the tempo".

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Refusing to kiss their ass is being un-cooperative?
    You don't have to kiss their asses to be cooperative. All you have to do, is set the tone from the outset, by being cool. That little, "well I ain't gonna kiss that pig's ass", isn't going to defuse a situation that is emotionally charged from the outset.

    When you're dealing with a person, who can die everytime he makes a traffic stop, anyone that isn't smart enough to ramp down the emotion deserves what they get.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Just because I refuse to kiss their ass doesn't mean that I'm going to provoke anything or "increase the tempo".
    Not the way you came across. You sounded like you have a chip on your shoulder.
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You don't have to kiss their asses to be cooperative. All you have to do, is set the tone from the outset, by being cool. That little, "well I ain't gonna kiss that pig's ass", isn't going to defuse a situation that is emotionally charged from the outset.
    Hmm...that's funny. I don't recall saying that or even mentioning the word "pig".

    When you're dealing with a person, who can die everytime he makes a traffic stop, anyone that isn't smart enough to ramp down the emotion deserves what they get.
    And you are still assuming that I'm always trying to provoke something or elevate the situation.

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