Page 44 of 64 FirstFirst ... 34424344454654 ... LastLast
Results 431 to 440 of 637

Thread: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

  1. #431
    cookies crumble
    ARealConservative's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Last Seen
    04-21-17 @ 09:41 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    14,518

    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    And you'd be right. It's not. It's a traffic offense in which the city, township, state, etc. is the victim and complainant.
    Lerxst, you seem like you would be a real valuable LEO. You clearly had more then the 18 month crash course that is so prevalent in society today!

  2. #432
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,571

    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I'll tell you the response to that one.

    Speeding isn't a crime against the public.


    What if I am doing, uhm donuts on the neigbors lawn?


    (Im trying to think of an example....)


    How about sitting in front of a church on sunday reving the engine and flipping off congregants......
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  3. #433
    Sage
    Caine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    10-05-17 @ 01:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    23,336

    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    We have been over this several times already. It's specific to certain criminal offenses. Mainly public order type offenses. Why must I continue to repeating myself? I even provided examples from California agencies in which they have to inform the public that certain complaints REQUIRE a victim complaint for an officer to take action, whether or not the officer observes the crime occur.
    I understand that this might be the way things are in some places. I also disagree that it makes any damned sense. Disorderly conduct does not raise to the level of worth to bother with gathering up members of the public who are willing to give statements to their peace getting disturbed, thus in that form it is unenforceable, either because the 'public' won't cooperate, or the police realize its not worth the effort (I sure as hell wouldn't do it).


    ****. You don't really know what I think Caine because you are attributing arguments to me I'm not making.
    I might be getting you mixed up with someone else earlier in this thread (and I'll be damned if im going back to search) but im pretty certain you informed me that citizens don't have to go to the magistrate to obtain warrants that they deal with the police directly and they make an on scene arrest in cases they didn't witness anything.

    I might be wrong about it being you though.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

  4. #434
    Guru
    tlmorg02's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Louisville, Ky
    Last Seen
    07-23-15 @ 11:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    3,347

    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What if I am doing, uhm donuts on the neigbors lawn?


    (Im trying to think of an example....)


    How about sitting in front of a church on sunday reving the engine and flipping off congregants......
    Then your going to hell.

  5. #435
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,571

    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Whoa whoa whoah, what did he say?



    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058154452
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  6. #436
    Sage
    Caine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    10-05-17 @ 01:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    23,336

    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    What if I am doing, uhm donuts on the neigbors lawn?
    Damage to property. Neighbor would have to 'file a complaint' and in my area, go to the magistrate to obtain arrest warrants on you for the damage.




    How about sitting in front of a church on sunday reving the engine and flipping off congregants......
    I can't really think of anything. I guess this could be considered disorderly conduct, but not if the church people don't complain according to Lerxst.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

  7. #437
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,571

    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Then your going to hell.



    Please to meet you, won't you guess my name?
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  8. #438
    ANTI**ANTIFA
    ReverendHellh0und's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Temple of Solomon
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    75,571

    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Damage to property. Neighbor would have to 'file a complaint' and in my area, go to the magistrate to obtain arrest warrants on you for the damage.


    Ok I understand i think, though tell me in the case of domestic violence, if an officer observes it, or say observes my hooliganism on the neighbors lawn, cant I be arrested without a complaing from the offended party?




    I can't really think of anything. I guess this could be considered disorderly conduct, but not if the church people don't complain according to Lerxst.




    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

  9. #439
    Guru
    tlmorg02's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Louisville, Ky
    Last Seen
    07-23-15 @ 11:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    3,347

    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Please to meet you, won't you guess my name?
    You think your mean! Mess with some good churchfolk!

  10. #440
    Sage
    Caine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Last Seen
    10-05-17 @ 01:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    23,336

    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Ok I understand i think, though tell me in the case of domestic violence, if an officer observes it, or say observes my hooliganism on the neighbors lawn, cant I be arrested without a complaing from the offended party?
    Domestic laws are very different. I blame OJ.

    Domestic laws can be prosecuted without the victim's willingness.

    True Example:
    Police had been to this residence on 2 other occasions and I was called out on the 3rd occassion, all 3rd party callers due to the loud noise their arguing and throwing things was making (it was an apartment). I arrived and they went through their same old thing, We'll stop, blah blah. The female went from saying he was going to kill her (hysteric) to "we are fine, no problems, blah blah". First we tried to convince her to go to mental health voluntarily (she was Cray-Zee). When that didn't work, I was talking to the male trying to convince him to take a free police assisted ride (he was drunk) to somewhere close to seperate the two of them for the night. While talking to him about it, she discovered that he sounded interesting in going and this angered her so she came up and started yelling at him and open hand slap/pushed him in the chest. At this point I knew that my job here had been solved, as this was an 'assault' and she was arrested for such even though he didn't want to prosecute. It was a means to an end of that ignorant problem of going out to their house every hour.

    However, with the neighbor lawn incident. Even if I observed the lawn being destroyed by yer 4x4 monster truck tires, I can't charge for that without the victim's consent. I could however, charge for reckless driving, which is an arrestable offense here.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

Page 44 of 64 FirstFirst ... 34424344454654 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •