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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Like the other anti-cop poster, you refuse to reveal the nature of your hatred for those that enforce laws. Rather a self revealing answer to my previous query, no?
    I'm all for dealing with crimes effectively.

    A crime needs a victim. Which citizen stepped forward as the victim?

    oh, that's right, the cop looked around and could see people were being victimized.

    sorry, this is just another case of power corrupting.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

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    I'm all for dealing with crimes effectively.

    A crime needs a victim. Which citizen stepped forward as the victim?

    oh, that's right, the cop looked around and could see people were being victimized.

    sorry, this is just another case of power corrupting.




    This response has nothing to do with my issue with your asinine "most cops" comments. Are we trying to change the subject now?
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This response has nothing to do with my issue with your asinine "most cops" comments. Are we trying to change the subject now?
    I'll raise the stakes - not most cops, most people abuse power given to them.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I'll raise the stakes - not most cops, most people abuse power given to them.



    Obvious, you have always been an underling


    I disagree.
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

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    Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism | Comcast.net

    BOSTON Henry Louis Gates Jr., the nation's pre-eminent black scholar, is accusing Cambridge police of racism after he was arrested while trying to force open the locked front door of his home near Harvard University.

    Cambridge police were called to the home Thursday afternoon after a woman reported seeing a man "wedging his shoulder into the front door as to pry the door open," according to a police report.

    An officer ordered the man to identify himself, and Gates refused, according to the report. Gates began calling the officer a racist and said repeatedly, "This is what happens to black men in America."

    Officers said they tried to calm down the 58-year-old academic, who responded, "You don't know who you're messing with," according to the police report.

    Yea way to go there Prof. when a Cop ask you ti ID yourself the best thing for you to do is sure officer here is my ID and as you can see I live here. I locked myself out and was trying to force the door open.

    You most likely won't get arrsted and I'm pretty sure the Cops will even try to help you.

    But no the Good Prof. had to start yelling out that the Cops were being racist and they had no idea who they were messing with.
    I and I am sure others(I haven't read the whole thread) see it as an elitist snob who thinks that just because he is a professor at an elite university he can treat the working man like ****. I hope the police press what ever charges they can against the professor/scholar. Someone in any teaching position shouldn't conduct themselves like that.
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Obvious, you have always been an underling


    I disagree.
    you are wrong.

    That's human nature. People act in their own self interest, including using power for their personal gain.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    you are wrong.

    That's human nature. People act in their own self interest, including using power for their personal gain.




    This weasling out of your attack on cops due to your own guilty conscious is humoring the Good Reverend.


    Do continue......
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    There is a lot of grey that still needs to come forth, there is murmurs of a tape... lets wait and see, I don't think you and I would come to a consensus on this at this time.
    What will the tape show? That Gates was a complete douche bag? We already know that. I'm not contesting that Gates baited this cop and showed his ass, I'm saying the arrest was bad based upon a lack of evidence to support the crime Gates was arrested for.
    Think about it. As a former LEO, If you came across a man who just busted down the door of a home, then refused to show you ID. Are you suggesting to me that he could not be arrested for failing to provide ID and breaking and entering?
    That isn't what happened though. Gates provided his I.D. Hypothetical scenarios don't apply here. But, if I encountered someone in the scenario you described, and I never got I.D. from them, I could arrest them on PC for burglary. However once it's determined that the "offender" was actually the homeowner, there is no crime. If he refused to identify, and there is an ordinance or statute that gives me power to arrest for that offense, then yes...I could arrest them. I'll remind you, none of the factors in your scenario were present in the Gates case.

    And yes, eventually he did produce ID.... relucantly.... It could have legally gone much worse for this race baiter....
    According to the officer he produced it reluctantly. Gates says he produced it upon request. The bottom line was he produced it. No crime.
    I disagree. I think it was textbook, maybe too textbook, but textbook none the less....
    Only if by textbook you mean leaving out pertinent facts and evidence necessary to make your charge stick.

    My point about the college kid, is he still would be sitting in jail.
    Maybe. The college kid might have a rich white daddy who has a lawyer who takes one look at the report and calls the DA and tells him "I'll hand you your ass in court and then I'll sue." And maybe the kid gets out with no charges dropped.

    I spent many years as the cop and learned many lessons by working with the numerous prosecutors. I know report writing, I know case preparation. I did it for a living. I taught ethics, internal affairs, and case preparation at the police academy.

    This report sucks. It's transparent. He didn't document nearly enough to make his case. A good cop doesn't go for PC and then stop. A good cop does his job, documents the evidence, and prepares his case for submission to the DA. A good cop will do a thorough job and not rely on his observation when he knows damn good and well he needs a victim to make a specific charge stick. In other words, he knows the statutes and the elements of those statutes that he is enforcing.
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This weasling out of your attack on cops due to your own guilty conscious is humoring the Good Reverend.


    Do continue......
    guilty conscious?

    You are so full of **** "good reverend".

    Most cops abuse their power. So do most politicians, and most anyody else that is given power.

    Which is why I support a position that is in constant vigil of such abuse of power.

    Not sure where your political stance comes from - lala land I suppose.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    most cops abuse their powers with trumped up charges - this is a common one.
    This statement invalidates anything you say in regards to police.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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