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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    they regret arresting him on this bogus charge, that much is perfectly clear.
    How do you come to this conclusion? Calling an incident regretable isn't saying that they regret arresting him on this "bogus" charge. Did you read the entire statement made by the person who called the incident regretable?

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    How do you come to this conclusion? Calling an incident regretable isn't saying that they regret arresting him on this "bogus" charge. Did you read the entire statement made by the person who called the incident regretable?
    the arrest is the incident they regret when they announced that the charges were dropped.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Okay, so he did invite Gates outside. There was no legitimate purpose in the officer doing that. He could have just left. But he didn't, he invited him to follow him outside. If he knows Gates is berating him then why would he want to invited him outside to continue the incident? So again I ask you, why did he invite him outside...because your answer does not suffice.
    The police report states that the acoustics in the house were such that the radio, along with Gates irrational shouting, made hearing difficult.

    One invites the irrational asshole outside because it lessons the territorial imperative of the racist bigot asshole and perhaps provides him an opportunity to calm down.

    One invitest the racist biot raving ass outside because if he becomes violent it's both easier to handle him in the open and because there's fellow officers outside to give assistance.

    And one also invites the irrational racist raving bigot out into the public square so that if he persists in his near-violent clearly abusive behavior he can be charged for disorderly behavior and arrested.

    Four perfectly valid reasons.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the arrest is the incident they regret when they announced that the charges were dropped.
    And why did they drop the charges?

    Only because the racist abusive ass was a major figure at Hahvahd, and the political pressure on the DA would have been impossible to bear, given the fact that in almost all cases of disorderly conduct the charges are usually dropped for a first offense anyway, depending on circumstances.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the arrest is the incident they regret when they announced that the charges were dropped.
    Interesting.

    Cambridge top cop stands by department after Harvard arrest

    The commissioner of the Cambridge, Massachusetts, police department said Thursday he "deeply regrets" the arrest of prominent black Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., but stands by the procedures followed by his department.


    Cambridge top cop stands by department after Harvard arrest - CNN.com
    You seem to think that by saying he "deeply regrets" the arrest that such means the arrest was wrong. To me, anytime something gets blown out of porportion, I think it's regretable. In other words, "It's too bad this happened." I don't read this as saying, "It was wrong to arrest him," particularly when the commissioner stands by the procedures followed.
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The man was a raving lunatic and deserved to be bitch slapped for it. The ultimate irony would be delightful if next time there is a call for a potential burglary at his house; the cops just ignore it or get there REAL late.

    I would think you could count on that one.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    And why did they drop the charges?
    because the charges would never stick and they are already at risk of a civil suit based on their impoper actions.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Interesting.



    You seem to think that by saying he "deeply regrets" the arrest that such means the arrest was wrong. To me, anytime something gets blown out of porportion, I think it's regretable. In other words, "It's too bad this happened." I don't read this as saying, "It was wrong to arrest him," particularly when the commissioner stands by the procedures followed.
    The mayor apparently views the apology as I do


    "This suggests that something happened that should not have happened,"

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    The mayor apparently views the apology as I do


    "This suggests that something happened that should not have happened,"
    Since the mayor (a black woman) isn't a police officer, I really couldn't care less what she thinks.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    until I hear of an actual citizen complaint of disturbing the peace, the officer is in the wrong.
    The relevant Massachussetts code was cited in this thread. Doesn't say a single damn word about the need for the disorderly behavior to be witnessed and compained about by a citizen. It merely says one can be arrested for disorderly behavior, and in fact, the disorderly behavior has to be witnessed by the arresting officer in order for the arrest to be made or the courts are just going to toss the case out.

    So what you've done is merely latch onto some bogus protect-the-asshole-bigot-racist argument that has no legal merit and no rational basis, and you're going to hold firm to that because you know that since no citizen complaint is necessary, no citizen complaint is going to be filed, especially not since the charges have already been dropped.

    In other words, you're being dishonest.

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