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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Counter has said he was stopped on campus by two Harvard police officers in 2004 after being mistaken for a robbery suspect. They threatened to arrest him when he could not produce identification.
    A member of the faculty, is on campus, with no identification?

    I never went to college, but I've heard about college, from people who went to college and not having an ID, on campus is somewhat of a no-no.

    These are the mother ****ers that educating our youth? Kinda makes me glad I never went to college.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    I can't fault the cop here...But I can't fault Gates either, ultimately it was a bad situation. I think it's fair to be pissed off if you're being suspected of breaking into your own house, but ultimately the good professor could have simply made one snide remark and everyone would have went about their day. Yelling at a police officer for minutes on end when the officer is trying to leave is just dumb.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Henry Louis Gates Jr. you are a proud honorary recipient of this year's


    Magic the gathering was the coolest.

    Did Professor Gates think it was unreasonable for the police to be investigating 2 guys strongarming their way into his house?

    I am willing to bet if 2 guys had been burgeralizing his house and were not immediately investigated He would have accused the police of not protecting his house for racial reasons.




    In this case the police were damned if you do and damned if you dont.

    I really want to know if he refused to identify himself or not.
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A member of the faculty, is on campus, with no identification?

    I never went to college, but I've heard about college, from people who went to college and not having an ID, on campus is somewhat of a no-no.

    These are the mother ****ers that educating our youth? Kinda makes me glad I never went to college.


    Your id badge is like a security badge on many campuses. Cant get into certain places without it.
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by faminedynasty View Post
    I'll not be so quick to condemn professor Gates as the rest of you based on a police report. Especially considering the allegations presented by his colleagues that there is a systematic problem present, or at least past questionable behavior by the local PD. I have been witness to events with which the corresponding police reports did not, well, correspond.
    We are all well aware of numerous instances when police reports are fabricated or inaccurate, and we are all well aware of instances of institutionalized racism within police departments. I'm not calling the cops liars. I'm not calling them idiots. But I'm certainly not calling professor Gates those things either. I wasn’t there.
    Doing it, then turning around and saying you aren't doing it doesn't mean you aren't doing it.

    Noted.
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    How can it be that someone with multiple college degrees is too stupid not to have his key on his person, nor have a spare key hid out somewhere?
    Not to mention he is too ****ing ignorant to just identify himself and state that he does in fact live there, and cooperate with the police, instead of being a race baiting asshole?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    In fairness, he did provide the officer with his Harvard ID.

    Here is the police report.

    -NC

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    Your id badge is like a security badge on many campuses. Cant get into certain places without it.
    That's what I've heard. Can't check out a book at the library without it, can't eat at the cafeteria with out it, stuff like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Not to mention he is too ****ing ignorant to just identify himself and state that he does in fact live there, and cooperate with the police, instead of being a race baiting asshole?
    You got it, my man.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by NortheastCynic View Post
    I can't fault the cop here...But I can't fault Gates either, ultimately it was a bad situation. I think it's fair to be pissed off if you're being suspected of breaking into your own house, but ultimately the good professor could have simply made one snide remark and everyone would have went about their day. Yelling at a police officer for minutes on end when the officer is trying to leave is just dumb.

    -NC
    Its not fair to be pissed off for being suspected of breaking into your own house?

    The police got a call stating that someone was breaking into the home.

    The police are not responsible for who calls what in to them. They are responsible for responding and investigating.

    If the police respond and the act is still occurring it is their job to investigate.
    If the individual refuses to identify himself, thats his own damned fault.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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