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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    In the report I read, Gates never produced a state ID, only a Harvard ID. Whether or not that ID had an address on it is unknown to me, and was not mentioned in the official report, as, the officer still had mentioned that he felt certain (not confirmed) that this was the man's house.

    The officer then went outside where the man continued after him, cursing and acting beligerant and calling him a racist for doing his job () The officer noticed that this man's yelling and cursing was disturbing people in the area, he asked him to calm down several times, the racist black man refused, so he was arrested.
    oh for the love of god.

    the cop could of saved time, tax payer money, and hassle by just leaving once it was clear that nothign illegal was going on.

    swallow your enormous ego and leave. Too much to ask of your profession? Apparently. How dare anybody raise their voice to a cop.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    He was outside of his home when he was yelling at the police officer.

    My point of using threatening words was to point out that just because someone is in their home doesn't mean they can say anything they want and NOT be arrested. That is an incorrect legal statement.

    I think the police (not the court) chose to drop the charges. I agree with that decision. It sounds like Gates got out of hand, but it doesn't warrant him having a police record.
    I thought he was on the porch. Show me where you can't yell racist accusations at a policeman from your own porch, the only possible charge would be disturbing the peace.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

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    Nothing, the sheet is white.
    Really? Or are you yanking my chain?

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    Our black, pig president said the police "acted stupidly". There goes the police union vote you jackass traitor! Were you there O'Banana?
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I thought he was on the porch. Show me where you can't yell racist accusations at a policeman from your own porch, the only possible charge would be disturbing the peace.
    Here's the Massachusetts law he was charged with violating: M.G.L. - Chapter 272, Section 53

    It looks like he can be arrested for disturbing the peace. The police officer pointed out that Gate's tumultous behavior could be viewed by the public.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Really? Or are you yanking my chain?
    Yeah, I'd like to yank ya.
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    In the report I read, Gates never produced a state ID, only a Harvard ID. Whether or not that ID had an address on it is unknown to me, and was not mentioned in the official report, as, the officer still had mentioned that he felt certain (not confirmed) that this was the man's house.

    The officer then went outside where the man continued after him, cursing and acting beligerant and calling him a racist for doing his job () The officer noticed that this man's yelling and cursing was disturbing people in the area, he asked him to calm down several times, the racist black man refused, so he was arrested.
    When he produced proof of his residence is crucial to knowing whether the cops acted fairly or "stupidly."

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    I have had similar things happen to me but didn't have the power to arrest the person. I applaud the officer for doing so. Officers deserve respect for putting their life on the line every day and working to protect our safety.

    Some blacks seem to have this feeling of entitlement and arrogance towards white people. My guess is that it stems from a misplaced feeling of inferiority, from an unwillingness to let go of the past. They then respond to this by assuming an attitude that hides this feeling, and it comes across as rude and quite unmannerly.

    We should all live in the present - we might find it is a lot less hostile than we ever realized.

    Liberals and their identity politics go into a feeding frenzy on this kind of story, automatically labeling Gates the victim and ranting about how racism is alive and well. It's disgusting.
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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Here's the Massachusetts law he was charged with violating: M.G.L. - Chapter 272, Section 53

    It looks like he can be arrested for disturbing the peace. The police officer pointed out that Gate's tumultous behavior could be viewed by the public.
    please describe the aspects of this that gates was found to have violated:
    CHAPTER 272. CRIMES AGAINST CHASTITY, MORALITY, DECENCY AND GOOD ORDER


    Chapter 272: Section 53. Penalty for certain offenses


    Section 53. Common night walkers, common street walkers, both male and female, common railers and brawlers, persons who with offensive and disorderly acts or language accost or annoy persons of the opposite sex, lewd, wanton and lascivious persons in speech or behavior, idle and disorderly persons, disturbers of the peace, keepers of noisy and disorderly houses, and persons guilty of indecent exposure may be punished by imprisonment in a jail or house of correction for not more than six months, or by a fine of not more than two hundred dollars, or by both such fine and imprisonment.

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    Re: Top scholar Gates arrested in Mass., claims racism

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    please describe the aspects of this that gates was found to have violated:
    Clearly this law has been in existence for decades. I found a criminal defense attorney's website, and this is what she says constitutes a violation of this law:

    Disorderly Person

    The crimes of disorderly person in Massachusetts is governed by G.L. c. 272 53. In order for the prosecution to convict someone of violating this statute it must prove that the behavior of the accused was offensive and disorderly to a reasonable person. Offensive acts are those that cause discontentment, umbrage or anger. Massachusetts appellate courts have held that acts or language that implicate fighting or threatening, or behavior that is riotous or violent, or behavior that creates a hazardous or offensive condition for no legitimate purpose can satisfy the elements of the disorderly person statute.

    Using vulgar or profane words alone or offensive speech does not amount to disorderly conduct. Nor does the use of obscenities in public places suffice for a conviction under this statute.

    Chelsea, Massachusetts Criminal Defense Lawyer :: Disorderly Person :: Roxbury, Massachusetts Crime Defense Attorney

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