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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Then you should know exactly what I'm talking about. Ever see'em get all freaked out at the idea of being burned? I mean, it's weird, dude!

    Personally, I think we've been playing patty cake with these ****ers for far too long. We have some fine body counts, so far, but not nearly what they should be, IMO.
    How old are you 10? This has nothing to do with body counts, this isn't a friggin' video game dude. This is modern war, its not about body counts anymore. Its about showing people that we are willing to stand up to tyranny and terror through use of force, while still upholding our own integrity and self-respect. This shows people what we are about, and inspires them to work towards having that same self-respect and improving themselves to obtain it. Its about winning over people to support your cause.
    The only conflicts that are about body counts are offensive land grabbing empire building attacks, thats not what the US is about.




    We'll just ramp up the killing. They might kill him, but they'll damn sure think twice before killing the next one.
    No, they wont.
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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We'll just ramp up the killing. They might kill him, but they'll damn sure think twice before killing the next one.
    This is how you create the circumstance they have in Israel/Palestine. You ramp up killing and killing and killing, and you only encourage the otherside to do the same. Pretty soon, you can't tell the forest for the trees and all you've successfully done is set up a perpetual human killing cycle.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    How old are you 10? This has nothing to do with body counts, this isn't a friggin' video game dude. This is modern war, its not about body counts anymore. Its about showing people that we are willing to stand up to tyranny and terror through use of force, while still upholding our own integrity and self-respect.
    By using that force to kill the enemy.

    This shows people what we are about, and inspires them to work towards having that same self-respect and improving themselves to obtain it. Its about winning over people to support your cause.
    In that part of the world, you win people over to your cause by proving to them that you're stronger than the bad guys. In that region, people don't respect weakness. Ever have an Arab/Muslim man get in your face to demonstrate his dominence? It's a true Alpha-Dog/Beta-Dog society.

    If the locals don't believe that the enemy fears you, they'll never come over to your side.

    The only conflicts that are about body counts are offensive land grabbing empire building attacks, thats not what the US is about.
    Any engagement is about killing the enemy. There are no exceptions. Ya gotta be 10 y/o to believe otherwise.


    No, they wont.
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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    This is how you create the circumstance they have in Israel/Palestine. You ramp up killing and killing and killing, and you only encourage the otherside to do the same. Pretty soon, you can't tell the forest for the trees and all you've successfully done is set up a perpetual human killing cycle.

    And, at some point, one side runs out of steam. The reason things aren't settled in Palestine, is because the fights always get cut short. They end, before they're over.

    You'll never be able to support this passive style of war fighting with anything other than your opinion.
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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In that part of the world, you win people over to your cause by proving to them that you're stronger than the bad guys. In that region, people don't respect weakness. Ever have an Arab/Muslim man get in your face to demonstrate his dominence? It's a true Alpha-Dog/Beta-Dog society.
    You have just demonstrated a total lack of knowledge about the Middle Eastern culture. Quit while you're ahead.

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

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    You have just demonstrated a total lack of knowledge about the Middle Eastern culture. Quit while you're ahead.
    And, how did I do that?
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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, at some point, one side runs out of steam. The reason things aren't settled in Palestine, is because the fights always get cut short. They end, before they're over.
    No, there have been all out wars, there have been attempted peace time. The problem is that you'll never run out of terrorists. And if all you do is sit there and shake the beehive, you'll never encourage an end game. All you're doing is romanticizing some conflict against an "ultimate evil" and pretending that if we kill enough of them it will end. But this isn't state vs. state warfare, this is ideological warfare and on some front, that will not be ended with mere violence. In fact, because it's ideological violence will only add fuel to the fire. So a fine line has to be walked, you have to allow yourself room to respond to threats, but if you're interested in actually ending the war you can't pretend that if we just send in wave after wave of our own men that it will miraculously come to some conclusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You'll never be able to support this passive style of war fighting with anything other than your opinion.
    You'll never drive to a solution by living in a fanciful dream world full of delusions of grandeur either.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, there have been all out wars, there have been attempted peace time. The problem is that you'll never run out of terrorists. And if all you do is sit there and shake the beehive, you'll never encourage an end game. All you're doing is romanticizing some conflict against an "ultimate evil" and pretending that if we kill enough of them it will end. But this isn't state vs. state warfare, this is ideological warfare and on some front, that will not be ended with mere violence. In fact, because it's ideological violence will only add fuel to the fire. So a fine line has to be walked, you have to allow yourself room to respond to threats, but if you're interested in actually ending the war you can't pretend that if we just send in wave after wave of our own men that it will miraculously come to some conclusion.
    Doing nothing and negotiating, has been a total no-go for 40 years. What's the definition of insanity?
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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I thought he made propaganda statements in this first video.

    Also, one of Garwood's fellow POW's testified tht Garwood told him he was captured in a brothel. I don't think the accepted story is that garwood just walked off. Army Sargeant Willie Watkins testified to that in 1969.

    But, no, it wouldn't surprise me to see him making anti-American statements on video, either. No doubt he'll be tortured into doing so.
    Garwood was turned. He ended up working for the North. He was essentially a traitor.
    I came into this world fighting, screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I have no problem going out the same way.

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Garwood was turned. He ended up working for the North. He was essentially a traitor.
    That's the hen's teeth of the matter. Thank you.

    I've seen what's been said about Bowe's, "capture", and I'm going to reserve opinion on that 'til a later date.
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