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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    NO! I am saying that the rumor has it that this soldier got up and walked away much as Garwood did. It would not surprise me in the least that next month we start seeing propaganda videos of this "soldier" making statements against the USA and the US military.
    I thought he made propaganda statements in this first video.

    Also, one of Garwood's fellow POW's testified tht Garwood told him he was captured in a brothel. I don't think the accepted story is that garwood just walked off. Army Sargeant Willie Watkins testified to that in 1969.

    But, no, it wouldn't surprise me to see him making anti-American statements on video, either. No doubt he'll be tortured into doing so.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Since when is killing the enemy, "terrorism"?
    When you agree with the tactics of threatening the Afghan people till you get what you want. That is the definition of terrorism. You're purposely using fear and force over a people to get a desired outcome.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you think that if we treat Afghan prisoners good, they'll treat him good?
    I don't think that was necessarily the point. I think the point was that if we start engaging in very violent and questionable behavior that the likelihood of that being returned to our captured soldiers will be higher. But on that level, would you be pissed off if this soldier was treated as we have already treated "terrorist" suspects?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

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    Where the fvck did I say that? Are you like a coin, with only two sides to choose from?
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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    When you agree with the tactics of threatening the Afghan people till you get what you want. That is the definition of terrorism. You're purposely using fear and force over a people to get a desired outcome.
    Ok, I see your point. Still a good idea, since it's one of our guys out there in the mountains that needs to be found. The locals have to learn that they can't just sit the fence, while our people are kidnapped and tortured.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I don't think that was necessarily the point. I think the point was that if we start engaging in very violent and questionable behavior that the likelihood of that being returned to our captured soldiers will be higher. But on that level, would you be pissed off if this soldier was treated as we have already treated "terrorist" suspects?

    So, you think that if we treat Afghan prisoners good, they'll treat him good?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok, I see your point. Still a good idea, since it's one of our guys out there in the mountains that needs to be found. The locals have to learn that they can't just sit the fence, while our people are kidnapped and tortured.
    I just find it ironic that you propose to fight terrorism with terrorism. Doesn't really seem in line with the War on Terror. Less it's the War on Other People Using Terror Against Us, but We Retain the Right to Use Terror on Other People as We See Fit. But that's a rather long name.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you think that if we treat Afghan prisoners good, they'll treat him good?
    Again, you missed the point. Try reading. It said not that if we treat them well, our prisoners will be treated well. But if we engage in violent and questionable behavior against their people, you will increase the probability that they will retort with higher levels of violence as well. Try to understand those words.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I just find it ironic that you propose to fight terrorism with terrorism. Doesn't really seem in line with the War on Terror. Less it's the War on Other People Using Terror Against Us, but We Retain the Right to Use Terror on Other People as We See Fit. But that's a rather long name.
    You fight a war by killing more of the enemy than he can kill of you. How did we respond to the attack on Pearl Harbor?



    Again, you missed the point. Try reading. It said not that if we treat them well, our prisoners will be treated well. But if we engage in violent and questionable behavior against their people, you will increase the probability that they will retort with higher levels of violence as well. Try to understand those words.
    You're saying the same thing, two different ways. Same meaning, either way, though.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You fight a war by killing more of the enemy than he can kill of you. How did we respond to the attack on Pearl Harbor?
    By officially declaring war. And it was the last time we did so. You're endorsing the use of terrorism to fight terrorism; if you don't get the irony in that well...don't really know what to say.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're saying the same thing, two different ways. Same meaning, either way, though.
    Indeed I did, and it does have the same meaning. Just not the one you think it is. Try reading slowly this time. Seriously, this isn't tough and it's not a trick.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

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    Funny, I learned how to do that from a mod in the basement.

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    Re: Pentagon Identifies Soldier in Video

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    By officially declaring war. And it was the last time we did so. You're endorsing the use of terrorism to fight terrorism; if you don't get the irony in that well...don't really know what to say.
    Fire-bombing Tokyo and killing a million people was...?



    Indeed I did, and it does have the same meaning. Just not the one you think it is. Try reading slowly this time. Seriously, this isn't tough and it's not a trick.

    Why don't you just give up with the word game?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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