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    Re: Walter Cronkite, Iconic Anchorman, Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by aquapub View Post
    Meanwhile, here on planet Earth, the record overwhelmingly demonstrates the exact opposite of everything you've just said.

    Cronkite was relentlessly biased against the war, and even flat-out lied to undermine it.
    I have a feeling you weren't alive in the 60's. Cronkite was never against the war, the troops, the generals, the strategy, until 1968. That's why his conversion was such a big deal. As LBJ said "if I've lost Cronkite I've lost middle America" and he withdrew from the campaign.

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    Re: Walter Cronkite, Iconic Anchorman, Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    If the first 10 posts were all people sharing condolences and saying words of respect, probably. However, its unlikely to happen with them, and the fact you're comparing Cronkite to James Earl Ray shows the partisan hack you and the worth of your opinions.
    I'm not going to pretend to like someone after they die, when I didn't like him when he was alive.

    Just like I don't expect you to understand my point of view, as most people aren't historical literate enough to understand what I'm saying. Most people still think that the North Vietnamese defeated the American army on the battlefield, in Vietnam. Therefore, those same people aren't going to understand why I believe that Cronkite is a defeatest piece of ****.

    Why most folks choose to remain historically uninformed, I don't know, but it's the path that they take. It's my job to correct the false information they spew out to others who just as uninformed and will hang every word.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Walter Cronkite, Iconic Anchorman, Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not going to pretend to like someone after they die, when I didn't like him when he was alive.

    Just like I don't expect you to understand my point of view, as most people aren't historical literate enough to understand what I'm saying. Most people still think that the North Vietnamese defeated the American army on the battlefield, in Vietnam. Therefore, those same people aren't going to understand why I believe that Cronkite is a defeatest piece of ****.

    Why most folks choose to remain historically uninformed, I don't know, but it's the path that they take. It's my job to correct the false information they spew out to others who just as uninformed and will hang every word.
    You seem to feel that if you keep repeating the words "Cronkite is a defeatest piece of ****" people will eventually believe them. I challenge you to provide one instance of Cronkite criticizing the Vietnam War before his famous reversal in 1968.

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    Re: Walter Cronkite, Iconic Anchorman, Dies

    May he rest in peace. He was a truly great journalist.

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    Re: Walter Cronkite, Iconic Anchorman, Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    You seem to feel that if you keep repeating the words "Cronkite is a defeatest piece of ****" people will eventually believe them. I challenge you to provide one instance of Cronkite criticizing the Vietnam War before his famous reversal in 1968.
    His, "famous reversal", in 1968 is the defeatism I'm talking about. He said that the war couldn't be won, while we had soldiers on the battlefield. That's defeatism, in every sense of the word. He encouraged the enemy to keep fighting.

    Shall I post Giap's quote, again?
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    Re: Walter Cronkite, Iconic Anchorman, Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    His, "famous reversal", in 1968 is the defeatism I'm talking about. He said that the war couldn't be won, while we had soldiers on the battlefield. That's defeatism, in every sense of the word. He encouraged the enemy to keep fighting.

    Shall I post Giap's quote, again?
    "Defeatism" is not a medical condition, and "winning" is not achieved by ignoring the "defeatists". We would have lost Vietnam sooner or later, and if you had your way it would have been much later, with much higher loss of life. And no, we could not "bomb the VietCong back to the Stone Age", even with nuclear weapons the country is too large, the enemy too dispersed. Your charge of "defeatism" therefore is naive, reckless, and mindless of the safety of our armed forces.

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    Re: Walter Cronkite, Iconic Anchorman, Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    May he rest in peace. He was a truly great journalist.
    At least much better than the urinalists we have today.
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    Re: Walter Cronkite, Iconic Anchorman, Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    "Defeatism" is not a medical condition, and "winning" is not achieved by ignoring the "defeatists". We would have lost Vietnam sooner or later, and if you had your way it would have been much later, with much higher loss of life. And no, we could not "bomb the VietCong back to the Stone Age", even with nuclear weapons the country is too large, the enemy too dispersed. Your charge of "defeatism" therefore is naive, reckless, and mindless of the safety of our armed forces.
    It's funny you should mention the Viet Cong. The Viet Cong, as a fighting force, was destroyed during the Tet Offensive. So, obviously it was possible to defeat them.
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    Re: Walter Cronkite, Iconic Anchorman, Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's funny you should mention the Viet Cong. The Viet Cong, as a fighting force, was destroyed during the Tet Offensive. So, obviously it was possible to defeat them.
    Oh? So who were we fighting for the remaining 7 years of the war?

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    Re: Walter Cronkite, Iconic Anchorman, Dies

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Oh? So who were we fighting for the remaining 7 years of the war?

    Well, first off, we weren't there for another 7 years. We were gone by the spring of '73. Secondly, we were fighting the North Vietnamese Army (NVA), or their official name, The People's Army of Vietnam.

    After the Tet Offensive in 1968, the Viet Cong were rendered combat ineffective. The local force units were disbanded and the main force units were absorbed into the NVA.

    You are aware that the Tet Offensive was a huge failure for the Communists?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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