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    Re: "The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam" conference in Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    If God wanted a world with one religion. He would have done that but he did not. We are diverse for a reason.
    Laila, I was one of the first posters here to recognize your Islamic beauty but your golden attitude and temperament would not be able to contain nor control the Islamist. The Islamist who believes in only Islam as the highest religion.

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    Re: "The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam" conference in Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Yes it is.
    Probably less trouble and stress free to not believe in God than it is to do so. Worrying about your actions is kinda tiring after a while.
    I dunno, knowing that there is no after-life, it kinda makes you worry more.
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    Re: "The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam" conference in Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I dunno, knowing that there is no after-life, it kinda makes you worry more.
    Does it?
    Not really, you can't top a session in Mosque every week where pain and judgement day is the topic of conversation. Really puts you off dinner and makes you have a 45min stint of "deep thinking" about your life and actions, swear you'll change it and then by the next day forget all about it


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    Re: "The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam" conference in Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I understand the difference. As I said in the post above, most Muslims pose no threat to the US.
    Then it seems you've changed your position. It was pretty clear before that you were agreeing with the thread, which was insinuating that all of Islam is the enemy.
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    Re: "The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam" conference in Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Is US so worried about their democratic system that they fear its downfall? Is it that weak? Would Americans not fight for liberty or would they willingly allow a minority of Islamists take away their country?
    What does that say about your trust in the American people?

    Democracy collapses only if you let it.
    And by failing to recognize the threat we are letting it.

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    Re: "The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam" conference in Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Laila, I was one of the first posters here to recognize your Islamic beauty but your golden attitude and temperament would not be able to contain nor control the Islamist. The Islamist who believes in only Islam as the highest religion.
    Islamists are those who use religious texts and words for political agendas.

    Political Islam is the threat not Islam in itself.
    Lets not forget Islam has been in the west for decades, Muslims can be traced back in the west for hundreds of years. It is only in the last decade or so Political Islam has formed. Remove the political reasons for their existence and why they are there to begin with, remove them. That would include Arab Israeli conflict, Iraq, Afghanistan.

    Then ofc comes the discontent with the dictators, the lack of trust with the west and fear of imperialism etc.
    Last edited by Laila; 07-17-09 at 05:38 PM.


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    Re: "The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam" conference in Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by Tubub View Post
    Then it seems you changed your position. It was pretty clear you were agreeing with the thread before, which was insinuating that all of Islam is the enemy.
    Nope. My position is unchanged.

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    Re: "The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam" conference in Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Islamists are those who use religious texts and words for political agendas.

    Political Islam is the threat not Islam in itself.
    Lets not forget Islam has been in the west for decades, Muslims can be traced back in the west for hundreds of years. It is only in the last decade or so Political Islam has formed. Remove the political reasons for their existence and why they are there to begin with, remove them.
    I agree but who and how to remove political Islam?

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    Re: "The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam" conference in Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I agree but who and how to remove political Islam?
    That would include Arab Israeli conflict, Iraq, Afghanistan.

    Then ofc comes the discontent with the dictators, the lack of trust with the west and fear of imperialism etc.
    Already answered in edit.


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    Re: "The Fall of Capitalism and the Rise of Islam" conference in Chicago

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Nope. My position is unchanged.


    Statistically, 20% - 30% of all Muslims believe in Islamic superiority and/or Islamism and these groups are the leaders of the Islamic communities.
    You are implying that the leaders of Islam are Islamists. Therefore, since the Islamic community is lead by these individuals, how are you not implying that Islam itself is not "Islamofascist"?

    As I said in the post above, most Muslims pose no threat to the US.
    Now your taking a more practical approach
    Last edited by Tubub; 07-17-09 at 05:45 PM.
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