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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Picaro View Post
    The taxes on weed won't amount to much after legalization, except maybe in the short term, because most people with any sense(imillia) will be immediately sending orders to these people ...

    Dutch Seed Sellers

    .. and growing their own. Nobody will be buying Mexican trash weed or imports, and domestic growers these days tend to be working for criminal biker gangs and worse, not the sort of 'business men' most people like being associated with, legal or not, as they will still be dominating the industry.

    The Dutch have top notch products, having been at it a long time, and are better then the domestic underground farmers.
    No, the Dutch farmers are not nearly as innovative as their American counterparts, nor is their cannabis industry for that matter. American pot is hands down, the best there is. Go to the top "cafe" in Amsterdam (Barney's IMHO) and compare their menu with that of a southern California dispensary. It's not even fair, as there are 2-3 times the amount of available cannabis, complete range of potent edibles, tinctures, etc... all with quality that blows away Barney's.

    Ever been to a top notch hash bar in Holland? Didn't think so, but i know of about 20 of them in LA alone, all of which employ the newest innovations in the cannabis industry.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    A. I never said it was an "effective" solution. An effective solution would be a bullet between their eyes, but I digress.
    And how do you justify murdering people who aren't harming you or anyone else in any way whatsoever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America
    Whatever. It's not my concern whether or not they are deterred by common sense and lack of freedom. I just want them put away. Prison is the best place for them if they intend on trying to sell hard drugs to my children or my neighbors children. They are much safer there than they would be if I got ahold of them.
    Except we weren't talking about people selling drugs to children. We were talking about drug users and drug dealers in general. Why the straw man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America
    They are the cash flow that pays people to go out in the streets and do more violent crimes. If hard drugs grew on trees and users didn't have to support violent criminals in order to get their fix, I could care less if they want to hole up in a closet and shoot dope into their veins until their teeth fall out and they die. Not my problem.
    If drugs were LEGALIZED than they WOULDN'T be supporting violent criminals when they got their fix. They'd be supporting their local 7/11.

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    So do I. However, my way is not found to be acceptable by most pablum pukin' bleeding hearts and liberals. That's probably a good thing. I dunno. I'd just as soon put them all 6' under myself. But that's just me.
    I'm waiting for some kind of valid justification for why exchanging drugs for money warrants the death penalty.
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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Kanda, why would you defend these dealers of death yet take exception to someone who wants to deal death back to them?

    According to you (and Ethreal,) by all appearances, you are against even the most sensible laws so why would my position on putting the guys away go against your beliefs?

    You can defend these meth hounds all you want. But I know them to be the lowest of low and they are a waste of oxygen IMO.

    You guys defending them, as you do, makes wonder about you.

    They say "birds of a feather......" But I could be wrong.

    Just sayin'......
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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Kanda, why would you defend these dealers of death yet take exception to someone who wants to deal death back to them?

    According to you (and Ethreal,) by all appearances, you are against even the most sensible laws so why would my position on putting the guys away go against your beliefs?

    You can defend these meth hounds all you want. But I know them to be the lowest of low and they are a waste of oxygen IMO.

    You guys defending them, as you do, makes wonder about you.

    They say "birds of a feather......" But I could be wrong.

    Just sayin'......

    And just why are meth cookers and dealers the "lowest of the low"?

    Oh, that's right, because the government imprisons anyone caught making or selling the stuff, and thus only people willing to risk prison get into that industry.

    How did Al Capone and Joe Kennedy get rich? Yes, that's right, the government created a black market and the criminals got rich.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Perhaps. But I'm a simple man and the first to admit that I'm not the smartest fella on two legs.

    Simply put. I want anyone remotely connected to the meth, crack, and/or the heroin culture either put away, or dead.

    We ain't talkin' pot here. We're talking poison. I want it eradicated no matter what it takes.

    You see, I know a lil' sumpin', sumpin' about crystal. I hate it, and those who take part in it. I want it (and them) gone.

    I know I will never get what I want. But I want it anyways.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Kanda, why would you defend these dealers of death yet take exception to someone who wants to deal death back to them?
    How exactly am I defending them by wanting to eliminate their career by legalizing drugs?

    As for dealing death to dealers of death...Are you calling for the murder of the executives of Phillip Morris too? Jack Daniels? How about McDonald's? Coca-Cola?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America
    According to you (and Ethreal,) by all appearances, you are against even the most sensible laws so why would my position on putting the guys away go against your beliefs?
    No, YOU are against the most sensible laws. Namely, the total legalization of all drugs, albeit in restricted settings for the harder drugs. Which of the "most sensible laws" am I against, and what makes you think that they're oh-so-sensible when the war on drugs has been an abysmal failure?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America
    You can defend these meth hounds all you want. But I know them to be the lowest of low and they are a waste of oxygen IMO.
    If they aren't hurting anyone, then it's none of your damn business whether or not they're a "waste of oxygen." And if they are hurting someone, then prosecute them for THOSE crimes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America
    You guys defending them, as you do, makes wonder about you.

    They say "birds of a feather......" But I could be wrong.

    Just sayin'......
    This is the typical irrational rhetoric from drug warriors that replaces actual THOUGHT. Perhaps you'd care to address the issue, instead of what you imagine my drug habits to be.
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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Safe to say that we are poles apart on our opinions.

    You call my opinion irrational rhetoric and I call your's simply un-experienced, equally irrational and perhaps naive.

    Stalemate.

    But I agree that Jack Daniel's and Phillip Morris are also dealer's in death. If they fell off the face of the earth it wouldn't hurt my feelings either.

    So we have to agree that we disagree. That's all we can do

    With that settled, let's go smoke a fatty and have a Corona or two.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    I've had 3 brothers who ended up involved with hard drugs including meth and heroine. (including just recently my younger brother, who just got out of jail for stealing money from his own mother to buy meth) In all 3 cases, the cookers and dealers were not the problem, my brothers were/are their own problems. It's not like dealers are out there forcing narcotics down people's throats against their will. Dealers are not the problem. It's a waste of time to focus on dealers. The focus should be on convincing people to decide not to buy and use what they're selling to begin with.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    That would be fine if the addict was in control. The meth takes control. The addict is a casualty. It's gotta go. Unfortunantly, to get to the queen bee, we gotta take out the whole nest.

    Any and everything that has to do with meth, from the bottom to the top, has to be quarantined or extinguished. I hate it that much.

    I can understand, however, that someone who walks in a different pair of shoes might differ.

    But the shoes I'm standing in, and have stood in, tells me that sympathy and compassion and progressive possibilities be damned. No quarter. Zero tolerance.

    Like Barney said. "Nip it. Nip it in the bud."

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    That would be fine if the addict was in control. The meth takes control. The addict is a casualty. It's gotta go. Unfortunantly, to get to the queen bee, we gotta take out the whole nest.

    Any and everything that has to do with meth, from the bottom to the top, has to be quarantined or extinguished. I hate it that much.
    So let me get this straight: Meth is so horrible because it takes control of people and makes casualties out of addicts...therefore we should kill the addicts, to prevent them from becoming victims of meth.

    Before they're executed, can they file a civil suit against themselves too? Can the victim (the meth user) sue the culprit (himself)? If so, how much should he be awarded?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America
    I can understand, however, that someone who walks in a different pair of shoes might differ.

    But the shoes I'm standing in, and have stood in, tells me that sympathy and compassion and progressive possibilities be damned. No quarter. Zero tolerance.
    "Zero tolerance" is just a euphemism for "stupidly rigid policies that accomplish nothing."

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America
    Like Barney said. "Nip it. Nip it in the bud."
    Can you explain to us again how executing meth users is "nipping it in the bud"?
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