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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

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    I'm just looking for an honest and constructive dialouge. You just want to bicker and nitpick. You probably had a bad day or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I'm just looking for an honest and constructive dialouge. You just want to bicker and nitpick. You probably had a bad day or something...
    No I want the last word

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Nixon View Post
    Marijuana is killing our children and giving feminists power. It is also financing communism and killing our freedom.

    Vote Reagan!
    You can't be serious.

    Love your sense of humor though.

    That's so "out there" I had to laugh.

    Truth be known, making pot illegal is a freedom killer and the only people it is financing is politicians and criminals (same difference.)

    Get with the times man. The old "commies are under your bed waiting to take over" propaganda has now been replaced with "terrorists are under your bed."


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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yes, I have a few.

    What makes you think that building prisons for "a-holes who insist on selling hard drugs and buying hard drugs" is an effective solution? For one thing, prison is a horrible incentive for the buyers to stay clean. If they aren't deterred by the health risks and the dangers of associating with shady drug-dealers, they aren't going to be deterred by a (presumably) relatively short stay in prison. For another thing, how can you possibly believe that a prison sentence is justified for someone who isn't harming anyone by using drugs and just wants to be left alone? Sure, their drug habits might potentially cause harm to someone else...but the same could be said of plenty of legal substances. We should prosecute them for those crimes, not for buying drugs.

    As for the sellers...sure, prison would deter a few of them, but there is enough profit potential in hard drugs to make it an attractive career for enough people to be a problem. I have a surefire way to deter over 99% of the people currently selling hard drugs: Legalize them. You don't see people hocking cigarettes to passersby in dark alleys, do you?
    Q. What makes you think that building prisons for "a-holes who insist on selling hard drugs and buying hard drugs" is an effective solution?

    A. I never said it was an "effective" solution. An effective solution would be a bullet between their eyes, but I digress.

    For one thing, prison is a horrible incentive for the buyers to stay clean. If they aren't deterred by the health risks and the dangers of associating with shady drug-dealers, they aren't going to be deterred by a (presumably) relatively short stay in prison.

    Whatever. It's not my concern whether or not they are deterred by common sense and lack of freedom. I just want them put away. Prison is the best place for them if they intend on trying to sell hard drugs to my children or my neighbors children. They are much safer there than they would be if I got ahold of them.

    For another thing, how can you possibly believe that a prison sentence is justified for someone who isn't harming anyone by using drugs and just wants to be left alone?

    They are the cash flow that pays people to go out in the streets and do more violent crimes. If hard drugs grew on trees and users didn't have to support violent criminals in order to get their fix, I could care less if they want to hole up in a closet and shoot dope into their veins until their teeth fall out and they die. Not my problem.

    "but the same could be said of plenty of legal substances."

    Now THAT we can agree on. we live in a society where we can go but a bottle of whiskey on nearly every street corner even though it is killing people right and left. All the while, pot is illegal. Yes. We do have double standards in this country that do not make any logical sense.

    I have a surefire way to deter over 99% of the people currently selling hard drugs:

    So do I. However, my way is not found to be acceptable by most pablum pukin' bleeding hearts and liberals. That's probably a good thing. I dunno. I'd just as soon put them all 6' under myself. But that's just me.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    The taxes on weed won't amount to much after legalization, except maybe in the short term, because most people with any sense(imillia) will be immediately sending orders to these people ...

    Dutch Seed Sellers

    .. and growing their own. Nobody will be buying Mexican trash weed or imports, and domestic growers these days tend to be working for criminal biker gangs and worse, not the sort of 'business men' most people like being associated with, legal or not, as they will still be dominating the industry.

    The Dutch have top notch products, having been at it a long time, and are better then the domestic underground farmers.
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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Picaro View Post
    The taxes on weed won't amount to much after legalization, except maybe in the short term, because most people with any sense(imillia) will be immediately sending orders to these people ...

    Dutch Seed Sellers

    .. and growing their own. Nobody will be buying Mexican trash weed or imports, and domestic growers these days tend to be working for criminal biker gangs and worse, not the sort of 'business men' most people like being associated with, legal or not, as they will still be dominating the industry.

    The Dutch have top notch products, having been at it a long time, and are better then the domestic underground farmers.
    http://www.economics.harvard.edu/fac...udget_2008.pdf

    The report estimates that legalizing drugs would save roughly $44.1 billion per year in government expenditure on enforcement of prohibition. $30.3 billion of this savings would accrue to state and local governments, while $13.8 billion would accrue to the federal government. Approximately $12.9 billion of the savings would results from legalization of marijuana, $19.3 billion from legalization of cocaine and heroin, and $11.6 from legalization of other drugs.

    The report also estimates that drug legalization would yield tax revenue of $32.7 billion annually, assuming legal drugs are taxed at rates comparable to those on alcohol and tobacco. Approximately $6.7 of this revenue would result from legalization of marijuana, $22.5 billion from legalization of cocaine and heroin, and $3.5 from legalization of other drugs.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    http://www.economics.harvard.edu/fac...udget_2008.pdf

    The report estimates that legalizing drugs would save roughly $44.1 billion per year in government expenditure on enforcement of prohibition. $30.3 billion of this savings would accrue to state and local governments, while $13.8 billion would accrue to the federal government. Approximately $12.9 billion of the savings would results from legalization of marijuana, $19.3 billion from legalization of cocaine and heroin, and $11.6 from legalization of other drugs.

    The report also estimates that drug legalization would yield tax revenue of $32.7 billion annually, assuming legal drugs are taxed at rates comparable to those on alcohol and tobacco. Approximately $6.7 of this revenue would result from legalization of marijuana, $22.5 billion from legalization of cocaine and heroin, and $3.5 from legalization of other drugs.
    I'm happy to pay the money

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm happy to pay the money
    You're capable of spending 44.1 billion dollars annually?

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