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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's one way to completely ignore what I was saying, yeah.
    No. It was a way to point out the absurdity of what you were saying.

    Absolutely nothing can be said negative about marijuana, including whatever detrimental things smoking does to lungs, that can't be also said, and usually worse, about alcohol, and it's damage to the liver.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I have no idea why you hold a puritan view on anything, let alone this of all topics. By your logic we should legalize all manner of crime since some token minority of people are going to brake the law regardless.
    Wasn't the argument. Nice way to "completely ignore what I was saying, yeah."

    If a "crime" has no victim, why is it a crime? One cannot, by definition, be one's own victim.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Probably why I never supported the war on drugs.
    Hmmm....let's see..you're fully supportive of keeping drugs illegal, but you claim you're anti-war on drugs?

    That's beyond schizophrenic and well into Orwellian Doublespeak Master.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Your ignoring critical facts again, but let those stand in your way.
    Critical facts are:

    The concept of drug interdiction by massive military and police enforcement has failed, anyone that wants any drug can get it if they have the money.

    The black market breeds crime.

    The fact of attempted interdiction forces the price up.

    Alclohol is responsible for thousands of deaths each year.

    Marijuana is attributed to practically zero deaths and minimal health issues, and as far as I'm aware, since I don't use the stuff, it doesn't leave you a hangover in the morning.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    this is an indefensible assertion and thus requires no refutation. It is nothing but a pithy saying... it proves nothing.

    another pithy saying. Please, say something that you can support rather than balthering specious, superficial falsehoods.

    Oh.

    I thought you'd heard about the Wiemar Republic. My bad.

    There was this great republic the died too. It was called the United States of America. The land is the same, the name is the same, but the republic died, and so did many freedoms.

    In the "new" Germany, people don't have freedom of speech.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Oh.

    I thought you'd heard about the Wiemar Republic. My bad.

    There was this great republic the died too. It was called the United States of America. The land is the same, the name is the same, but the republic died, and so did many freedoms.

    In the "new" Germany, people don't have freedom of speech.
    I don't find that argument the least bit compelling given the vast differences in both location, world circumstances, geography, culture, population, era, poltical system (whew).... there's more but I think you get the point. Dismissed as a hasty generalization.

    I understand you have a personal set of principles that you believe promote an optimal society but I'm under no obligation to agree with those based on unsubstantiated premises, specious arguments, and logical fallacies. Sorry.
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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    I don't find that argument the least bit compelling given the vast differences in both location, world circumstances, geography, culture, population, era, poltical system (whew).... there's more but I think you get the point. Dismissed as a hasty generalization.
    Here's what most to the point:


    Define the descent of your authority to regulate someone else's life, from the source of that authority and how it came to reside in your hands.

    Explain how that someone else lacks similar authority to regulate your life.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Here's what most to the point:


    Define the descent of your authority to regulate someone else's life, from the source of that authority and how it came to reside in your hands.
    I don't have any authority except my vote, my influence, and my power to rebel, at least in this society.

    Explain how that someone else lacks similar authority to regulate your life.
    By resigning to the government the authority to administer and impose justice. No person regulates my life but an entity, the government, can and will impose its will upon me.
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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    I don't have any authority except my vote, my influence, and my power to rebel, at least in this society.
    You vote to elect people to express your authority, so where does your authority come from that you pass on to your representative to control the lives of others?


    Quote Originally Posted by scourge99 View Post
    By resigning to the government the authority to administer and impose justice. No person regulates my life but an entity, the government, can and will impose its will upon me.
    So, since the government isn't an entity but a collection of persons who make decisions, from where do these persons derive their authority to control your life, and the lives of people you want controlled?

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Let's cut to the chase.

    You don't have any authority to regulate the lives of others, except those of your minor children.

    The Constitution does not grant the government authority to interdict drugs.

    Period.

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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    OK you want to play stupid? Go ahead. You joined a thread about pot, not hard drugs, and when someone said they did not want pot legalized because it would lead to hard drugs becoming legal in the same way pot would be legal, you started defending hard drugs.
    Well, I think hard drugs SHOULD be legalized. Just in a more controlled setting than the mild stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry
    Since no one is talking about using pot on in "clinical settings", no one is talking about legalizing meth in "clinical settings" either.
    Uhh I'm pretty sure I *did* just talk about using meth in a clinical setting. In response to a post about meth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry
    This thread is about pot. The only way this thread is about hard drugs is if you think legalizing pot means also legalizing hard drugs, which a bull**** slippery slope you have yet to even try to prove.
    I really have no idea what you're talking about, what point you are trying to argue, or what I said that pissed you off so much.
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    Re: Calif tax officials: Legal pot would rake in $1.4B

    Marijuana is killing our children and giving feminists power. It is also financing communism and killing our freedom.

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