• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

S.S. execs spend $700K on Ariz. trip

winston53660 said:
If it helps to build team spirit leading to a more productive workforce I'd say it is a good thing.
Click to expand...

That's a pretty big god damned IF. This is just another example of government waste and incompetence. The absurd excuses being made are laughable. Video teleconferencing could have been utilized. I don't care about how stressful their little job is. These people can eat it. The country is suffering and we're in two wars - the attitude Americans have about money and leisure is a joke.
 
Ethereal said:
This is a BS excuse. If Marines can spend seven straight months in Iraq without a single break in operations then these fat lazy dickholes can do their jobs without wasting $700,000 on making themselves feel better.
Click to expand...
Agreed. Take the $700K and spend it making troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan feel better.
 
celticlord said:
Agreed. Take the $700K and spend it making troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan feel better.
Click to expand...

Sure, why not. Or, since it's in the SS budget, they could spend it on, I dunno, Social Security checks?
 
Joe1991 said:
I heard Fox do a report on this a few days ago, a SS rep said this was money already in the budget.
Click to expand...
So?

Take it out of the budget. Take it out for this year, next year, the year after that, and every year until the Second Coming.
 
Ethereal said:
Sure, why not. Or, since it's in the SS budget, they could spend it on, I dunno, Social Security checks?
Click to expand...
Now, E, you know that's not the Chicago way.;)
 
I really wouldn't mind this too much except for the fact:

1. The Congress and Obama jumped down the throats of corporations that did the exact same thing.

2. The SSA should forget this type of shindig and set an example.

In normal times, I think getting together everyone to share experiences is great, but we are not in normal times.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
My understanding was that the trip was a conference on administrative efficiency, and that the outcome of the conference should be leading to considerable savings in the maintenance and operation of Social Security's programs. Obviously, such a thing would be detrimental if done too often-- but if the conference leads to saving so much as half a million dollars every year, out of a multiple billion dollar program, it will have paid for itself within a year or two.
Click to expand...

Plus, it was only $1k per person for three days - not exactly extravagant.
 
Gill said:
In normal times, I think getting together everyone to share experiences is great, but we are not in normal times.
Click to expand...

I don't think it is even good on normal times. Why should the taxpayers pay for this?

I mean should taxpayers pay for the managers of Best Buy to get together? I mean it may improve productivity and all. What about Wal-Mart, what about <insert private company here>.

It isn't right that the taxpayers pay for this sort of thing.
 
jackalope said:
Plus, it was only $1k per person for three days - not exactly extravagant.
Click to expand...

I need to do this in caps because people are having a hard time undertanding.

It isn't about getting a good deal.

IT IS ABOUT GETTING A GOOD DEAL ON THE TAXPAYERS DIME.

And sying it WILL produce better productivity is a Big ****ing IF. How can you produce better productivity in a system that is doomed to fail eventually?

Do you NOT understand this?
 
Last edited:
I'll bet Congress spends $700K on lunch everyday.
 
jackalope said:
Plus, it was only $1k per person for three days - not exactly extravagant.
Click to expand...

No extravagant? Your average working stiff can't afford a trip that costs a grand per day. A $1k per day trip is way above the national average.
 
apdst said:
No extravagant? Your average working stiff can't afford a trip that costs a grand per day. A $1k per day trip is way above the national average.
Click to expand...


Ehrm .... that's not PER DAY.

Three day trip ... $1k per person .... includes airfare.
 
TheNextEra said:
I need to do this in caps because people are having a hard time undertanding.

It isn't about getting a good deal.

IT IS ABOUT GETTING A GOOD DEAL ON THE TAXPAYERS DIME.

And sying it WILL produce better productivity is a Big ****ing IF. How can you produce better productivity in a system that is doomed to fail eventually?

Do you NOT understand this?
Click to expand...


Sorry, dude, you're in left field :lol:
I want professionals working on my dime, and sending professionals to a professional conference so that I get better output for my dime is just plain good business sense.

Unless .... you're advocating for expressionless, unhelpful, unimaginative, automatons who are just collecting a paycheck?
 
jackalope said:
Ehrm .... that's not PER DAY.

Three day trip ... $1k per person .... includes airfare.
Click to expand...

The appropriate criteria for government spending is not its relative extravagance, it's necessity. This ridiculous trip was not necessary.
 
Ethereal said:
The appropriate criteria for government spending is not its relative extravagance, it's necessity. This ridiculous trip was not necessary.
Click to expand...

Holy ****, I agree with you.
 
jackalope said:
Sorry, dude, you're in left field :lol:
I want professionals working on my dime, and sending professionals to a professional conference so that I get better output for my dime is just plain good business sense.

Unless .... you're advocating for expressionless, unhelpful, unimaginative, automatons who are just collecting a paycheck?
Click to expand...

Can you say that after they went on this trip, they are most productive on a system that is doomed to fail?

Even EVERY CREDIBLE economist has said that Social security will fail, so please enlighten me on the productivity they will do in response to this trip on a system that will fail?

Please enlighten us all.
 
Ethereal said:
Increase the frequency of such occurrences and you will be well on your way to enlightenment.
Click to expand...

Well I take it that you are in tuned to my way of thinking. Enlightenment is only steps away for YOU hehehe.
 
TheNextEra said:
Can you say that after they went on this trip, they are most productive on a system that is doomed to fail?

Even EVERY CREDIBLE economist has said that Social security will fail, so please enlighten me on the productivity they will do in response to this trip on a system that will fail?

Please enlighten us all.
Click to expand...

1.) Nope, but neither can you say they are not. I'd say they are likely more productive.

2.) Most economists do not say SS will fail, and do not even say it is in trouble in the near, or medium term. Medicare on the other hand is in big deep doo doo.
 
jackalope said:
1.) Nope, but neither can you say they are not. I'd say they are likely more productive.
Click to expand...

I canj say that since SS is destined to fail, a trip like this is fruitless.


jackalope said:
2.) Most economists do not say SS will fail, and do not even say it is in trouble in the near, or medium term. Medicare on the other hand is in big deep doo doo.
Click to expand...

You'll have to quote me those economists, because most say that SS is destined to fail.

So go ahead and quote me those that say SS is destined to keep on going.
 
$700k?

I wonder if that includes the money spent on hookers.
 
Moon said:
$700k?

I wonder if that includes the money spent on hookers.
Click to expand...

The sad part is most are right on it being a a good deal. They would have to convince each other to give a hand job to one another;.

Hookers would have been extra on that expense.
 
TheNextEra said:
I canj say that since SS is destined to fail, a trip like this is fruitless.




You'll have to quote me those economists, because most say that SS is destined to fail.

So go ahead and quote me those that say SS is destined to keep on going.
Click to expand...



Pony up. You said it's going to fail. Prove it.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom