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    House bill would make health care a right

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    Jul 15, 3:24 AM (ET)
    By ERICA WERNER

    WASHINGTON (AP) - House Democratic leaders, pledging to meet the president's goal of health care legislation before their August break, are offering a $1.5 trillion plan that for the first time would make health care a right and a responsibility for all Americans. Left to pick up most of the tab were medical providers, employers and the wealthy.
    "We cannot allow this issue to be delayed. We cannot put it off again," Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., the chairman of the House Energy and Commerce committee, said Tuesday. "We, quite frankly, cannot go home for a recess unless the House and the Senate both pass bills to reform and restructure our health care system."
    In the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid said he wanted floor debate to begin a week from Monday. With the Senate Finance Committee still struggling to reach consensus, that timetable could slip. Even so, it underscored a renewed sense of urgency.
    Obama himself was driving the action, going off-script to push the issue during a speech in Michigan and scheduling a Rose Garden news conference for Wednesday to make more comments on the topic.
    I think they are rushing because they are unsure of the 2010 elections. They are going to saddle the pubic with $trillions in debt over this. And all for a few tens of millions, that might be helped by a solution customized for them, instead of the entire country.
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    How could they recognize this as a right if its not in the consitution?
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    How could they recognize this as a right if its not in the consitution?
    There was no understanding of medicine in 1776. I assume you are joking.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    There was no understanding of medicine in 1776. I assume you are joking.


    The US constitution was adopted in 1787.


    I assume you are joking that forcing other people to provide for you is a right.



    What this tells me is that you have no understanding of natural rights, liberty or freedom, and prefer the shackles of servitude to the animating contest of freedom.
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    This is so messed up that I literally have no idea where to begin in ripping this nonsense to shreds. Seriously, W.T.F.? Are the Democrats determined to **** themselves over, yet again?

    I've never encountered such a self-destructive group of people, IN MY LIFE. Except maybe gang members.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    This is so messed up that I literally have no idea where to begin in ripping this nonsense to shreds. Seriously, W.T.F.? Are the Democrats determined to **** themselves over, yet again?

    I've never encountered such a self-destructive group of people, IN MY LIFE. Except maybe gang members.



    I guess you missed the Republicans running McCain......
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    So now I guess "rights" can be forced on people? This is just getting better and better. So I guess if someone does not want to keep and bear arms we can fine them one thousand dollars? Not to mention nothing at all framed in the Constitution supports this kind of welfare.
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I guess you missed the Republicans running McCain......
    Oh, NO. They're ALMOST as inept. But, the Democrats have a stunning ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory almost every single time.

    Consider the 2004 election, for instance.

    Stupidity like that is...singular.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    The US constitution was adopted in 1787.


    I assume you are joking that forcing other people to provide for you is a right.



    What this tells me is that you have no understanding of natural rights, liberty or freedom, and prefer the shackles of servitude to the animating contest of freedom.
    You're a pretty weird person.
    "Other people" provide quite a lot for you every day. Military and police protection, fire protection, paved roads, water, sewage and electricity. Do you fuss about paying the taxes that furnish these services? Yet you have a problem with the most important service of all, the one that will keep your miserable heart beating in the event of a medical crisis. Go figure.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    There was no understanding of medicine in 1776. I assume you are joking.
    The Founding Fathers did not believe in positive rights.

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