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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I have heard from several sources that over 72% of Americans favor health care reform


    Which sources?
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    But there was an understanding of rights.

    Health care ain't a right.
    says who??

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

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    It should considering our training of doctors is antiquated.
    So the government should standardize educational training doctors achieve? Personally I think the medical community should control this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It should also remove the ability of licensing boards to limit the number of doctors.
    I agree with this. If I put in the time and money to earn my degree and education and am deemed qualified to execute procedures I should receive no push back on obtaining a license.
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    says who??


    is college education a right?


    Is dental a right?


    Where is it in the constitution that the government has the right to take my money to pay for your (general you) poor health habits?
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    is college education a right?


    Is dental a right?


    Where is it in the constitution that the government has the right to take my money to pay for your (general you) poor health habits?
    you are evading the question. Current polls show a wide majority of Americans favor health care reform.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    So the government should standardize educational training doctors achieve? Personally I think the medical community should control this.
    I disagree because currently they use that as an excuse to prop up what doctors charge patients.

    They reach around their arm to get to their ass to train a doctor.
    It's incredibly inefficient.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I agree with this. If I put in the time and money to earn my degree and education and am deemed qualified to execute procedures I should receive no push back on obtaining a license.
    Most of that is done to prop up doctors salaries by limiting supply.
    It is the primary reason for medical costs going up.
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Which sources?
    CBS June 20th, 2009 Poll
    Poll: Most Back Public Health Care Option - CBS News
    A clear majority of Americans -- 72 percent -- support a government-sponsored health care plan to compete with private insurers, a new CBS News/New York Times poll finds. Most also think the government would do a better job than private industry at keeping down costs and believe that the government should guarantee health care for all Americans.
    NBC News/Wall Street Journal Survey (PDF)
    76% said it was "Extremely" or "Quite" important to give a choice of BOTH a public plan administered by the federal government, and a private plan for their health insurance

    Bloomberg.com: News
    Sixty-nine percent of Americans support creation of a government-run health plan to compete with private insurance companies, a new poll found.

    In addition, 52 percent of those surveyed by Hamden, Connecticut-based Quinnipiac University said such a plan would keep the private insurance companies honest. Thirty-two percent disagreed. Twenty-six percent said they opposed a government-run insurance program. Some health-care overhaul plans proposed by Democrats in Congress would include a government-run plan, while Republicans are leading the fight against such a program.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    you are evading the question. Current polls show a wide majority of Americans favor health care reform.
    Rasmussen is usually more accurate than the others......


    49% Oppose Health Care Reform Plan, 46% Favor It
    Monday, July 13, 2009

    Forty-nine percent (49%) of U.S. voters now at least somewhat oppose the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats, while 46% at least somewhat favor it, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

    Just two weeks ago, 50% were for the reform plan, and 45% were opposed.

    The “nays” also continue to have the edge in terms of intensity. While 22% strongly favor the Democrats’ health care reform plan, 38% strongly oppose it, up four points from the previous survey.
    Among those voters who have health insurance, opposition is even higher: 43% favor the plan, but 52% oppose it. Those who strongly oppose it outnumber those who strongly favor it by two-to-one – 40% to 20%.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    you are evading the question. Current polls show a wide majority of Americans favor health care reform.



    hmm,,, since when is 56% = "72%" FAIL
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    says who??
    The definition of the term.
    If you force someone else to pay for something you get, then whatever you're getting isn't a right.

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