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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Did you hear the booing when Obama threw out the first pitch? I've never heard a president get that bad of a reception six months after taking office. That's usually reserved for second-termers. And this in a state he won pretty handily, no less.
    Here's the tape of the throw, on Fox no less, and all I hear is cheering. WTF are you talking about?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qfXvWj5_xI&feature=related"]YouTube - Barack Obama Throws First Pitch at All-Star Game 2009[/ame]

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Here's the tape of the throw, on Fox no less, and all I hear is cheering. WTF are you talking about?

    YouTube - Barack Obama Throws First Pitch at All-Star Game 2009
    Nope, the boos were VERY audible in my 7.1 theater room.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    I think the founding fathers would agree that a nation is obligated to provide whatever positive rights it is capable of, and that the nation they founded, in the 21st century, should have made great strides in "promoting the general welfare".
    Based on what evidence?

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    I think they're trying to get this ram-rodded through before the ground swell gets too big.
    I completely agree. As time goes on less and less people are supportive of this and that's because the economy is getting worse and more people are opening their eyes to the fact we don't have the money to pay for this. They want this passed ASAP before the economy gets even worse and too much of the public is then opposed to this.

    This is the most reckless Congress I've ever seen.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    TARP was "rammed" through by the Bush administration.
    Did I say it was done by Obama? No, I said Congress. The same Congress is in charge.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Here's the flow chart for our new healthcare plan Obams is giving us!!

    http://docs.house.gov/gopleader/Hous...ealth-Plan.pdf

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    You're a pretty weird person.
    "Other people" provide quite a lot for you every day. Military and police protection, fire protection, paved roads, water, sewage and electricity. Do you fuss about paying the taxes that furnish these services? Yet you have a problem with the most important service of all, the one that will keep your miserable heart beating in the event of a medical crisis. Go figure.


    Personal attacks and red herrings to hide blatant ignorance.
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Here's the flow chart for our new healthcare plan Obams is giving us!!

    http://docs.house.gov/gopleader/Hous...ealth-Plan.pdf
    Thank you for that pretty well done industry funded GOP talking point PDF. Now would you care to actually present a PDF that is not a tool for partisan bickering, but actual proposals up for debate?

    Got the CBO's projections?

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    TARP was "rammed" through by the Bush administration. I don't think it's premature to pass a bill of intent regarding health care, even if the details need to be filled in later. Republicans simply don't want health care because they get campaign funding from the pharmaceutical and insurance industries. It's that simple. Most Americans want health care, and that is who Congress is supposed to represent.


    This is incorrect as usual and is a lie to me.... I don' want government health care because I can afford better health care than the Government can ever provide.


    I have the best health insurance by choice, I already am covered under the VA for life but I choose to get good health care....


    Please lets not be dishonest about the oppositions position.
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    Thank you for that pretty well done industry funded GOP talking point PDF. Now would you care to actually present a PDF that is not a tool for partisan bickering, but actual proposals up for debate?

    Got the CBO's projections?


    "attack the messenger" makes for weak debate.
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