Surely, then, the taxes you use to finance the police and your various social services should be abolished? Would this not leave a heavily underfinanced and thus weak state?
This is a slavery deeply engraved into the common good. You are slaves to the health insurance companies whether you like it or not as you ARE going to be unhealthy sometimes. Nationalised health is just easier on the finances and less profitcentic.
The police exist to protect and serve. Protect and serve. If someone is beating me up then it is againt the law and thus up to the law to protect me.
You know our elected Represenatives are supposed to uphold the Constitution. It would be nice if they even knew what it said.
ObamaCare is horrid.
Obamacrats are trying to push it through asap without reading it or thinking about it. Luckily Republicans are having none of it and Blue Dog Democrats aren'st either.
Hopefully it is dead. Its definitely in trouble
Obama today declared ObamCare will not increase the deficit..wake up people before he say "well we underestimated its costs."
It's too bad we have so many crazy people on this forum. It really gives you a sour taste in your mouth when you agree with part of what they say only because when taken as a whole it is so ludicrous.
I agree that access to affordable healthcare in a first world country where other basic services such as military, education, roads, police, fire department, libraries, etc. are already provided should be a right that every citizen has.
However, I also agree that they are rushing it a bit. Kinda reminds me of when somebody told us that "if we don't pass TARP by Monday the whole economy will collapse". Pass something by the end of the year, ok I'm with you. Pass something by Monday, go f**k yourself.
Affiant further sayeth not.
Seems I hit a nerve, though that's not surprising. Private health insurance is a poor basis for coverage. You profit by denying care.You're right, I am informed on the matter, in fact I am focusing on life coverage right now and not currently appointed with any health companies. That I want to make money with my knowledge and you would assign the government to take that from me for your desire to see change speaks volumes about you.
So you've read it? Do you really think the Constitution came about via logic rather than compromise with self-interested groups?The following book is an opinion, and not exactly a good one.
No access is a code word for achieveable, and in this case proportional, we should strive to cause it to have a similar percentage impact on everybody's budget ceteris paribus and encourage, but not coerce, healthier behavior.Access is the code word for free, except it's only free for some, those that don't pay taxes, I am personally sick and tired of this paying for other people's lunch ****.
And no, healthcare is not reliably accessible for everybody. Even beyond the uninsured, many people are underinsured. And most of them would not know it until they have a major health crisis. Most personal bankruptcies are healthcare related, 74% of healthcare bankruptcies are people who are insured.
Copays make it not free. Taxes make it not free to everybody who pays taxes. Soda VATs cause people who drink a lot of soda to pay more for it too, under the idea that they will require more healthcare later.Wait... I thought you said it should not be free..?
It is Russian Roulette unless you're rich.On this note, we should be responsible for ourselves.
REALLY? Are you REALLY going to blame just the last administration for the VA's dismal state? REALLY?
The VA sucked long before Bush came to office...
READ IT THIS TIME: Veterans' health system blazing trails
Note I said both Congress and the Administration. One could argue Congress was more at fault, but Bush certainly didn't lift a finger to fund the healthcare of the injured vets his wars created.
We have experimental procedures unavailable elsewhere, that may be better or worse than established therapy (often the evidence isn't there right away) but in terms of overall errors we do worse.Propaganda. people don't fly here for surgery cause we suck.
Last edited by LiveUninhibited; 07-17-09 at 06:38 PM.