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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    The good news is that ALL of the major polls are showing that 60 percent of the country is against this, so Democrats in Congress are bailing on it like the plague. I'm becoming more optimistic that this thing will fail.

    Now if we can kill Obama's next $1 trillion in stimulus, perhaps there's light in the tunnel somewhere way down the road.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The good news is that ALL of the major polls are showing that 60 percent of the country is against this, so Democrats in Congress are bailing on it like the plague. I'm becoming more optimistic that this thing will fail.

    Now if we can kill Obama's next $1 trillion in stimulus, perhaps there's light in the tunnel somewhere way down the road.
    Popular opinion hasn't influenced Washington at all for the past eight years - a filibuster-proof majority is unlikely to change that. I wouldn't hold my breath that this dies

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The good news is that ALL of the major polls are showing that 60 percent of the country is against this, so Democrats in Congress are bailing on it like the plague. I'm becoming more optimistic that this thing will fail.

    That's funny, the Gallup poll released this week shows 56% favoring health care reform and 33% opposed. Are you one of those who thinks you can get people to believe any nonsense just by typing it?
    Poll: Americans want health care bill, but not the cost - USATODAY.com

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    That's funny, the Gallup poll released this week shows 56% favoring health care reform and 33% opposed. Are you one of those who thinks you can get people to believe any nonsense just by typing it?
    Poll: Americans want health care bill, but not the cost - USATODAY.com



    ah the "True believer" strikes again.


    Note they "don't want the cost", did you overlook that? Of course you did.
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    That's funny, the Gallup poll released this week shows 56% favoring health care reform and 33% opposed. Are you one of those who thinks you can get people to believe any nonsense just by typing it?
    Poll: Americans want health care bill, but not the cost - USATODAY.com
    So umm, where's the confidence level in that article? It's showing me the margin of error, but not at any confidence level.

    Another message to take from your article, more than 9 of 10 oppose restrictions on the healthcare we can receive. Basically, no one wants rationing which is what government healthcare gets you.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    ah the "True believer" strikes again.


    Note they "don't want the cost", did you overlook that? Of course you did.
    Do you have something to add, a link showing "Democrats bailing like the plague"? Anything other than personal attacks? I thought not.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    So umm, where's the confidence level in that article? It's showing me the margin of error, but not at any confidence level.

    Another message to take from your article, more than 9 of 10 oppose restrictions on the healthcare we can receive. Basically, no one wants rationing which is what government healthcare gets you.
    Erod flatly stated that 60% of Americans oppose health care reform and that Democrats were "bailing from it like the plague". He offered no link or proof of this claim. Can you?

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Another message to take from your article, more than 9 of 10 oppose restrictions on the healthcare we can receive. Basically, no one wants rationing which is what government healthcare gets you.
    The sick thing though, is that if it does pass, rationing is the last stage, and in typical fashion, the offending politicians will get a pass because of the short memory syndrome of most voters, these guys will send healthcare to the septic tank and come out smelling like roses.
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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post

    Funny, I don't recall my employer based health plan asking me any questions about pre-existing conditions.

    They also covered my wife's pre-existing pregnancy.
    That's because many employer-provided insurance plans cover all employees without regard to health status; the fees are structured that way, and all the employees share the higher risk of those less healthy.

    The only option for individuals who are either self employed or who work for an employer who does not provide health insurance is to seek a private or individual policy. Under those circumstances they are more likely to be asked health questions, and if they have health problems (more likely as one gets older), they are likely either to be rejected outright or to be offered a policy at rates that are greater than what they have left over after paying for food, rent and utilities.

    One of my cousins was rejected for being about 50 lbs overweight with no other health problems. It's people like her, and other relatives like the one I mentioned who had a stroke, who are falling through the health insurance cracks, and private insurance seems to have had little to no interest in filling that gap.

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    Re: House bill would make health care a right

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Erod flatly stated that 60% of Americans oppose health care reform and that Democrats were "bailing from it like the plague". He offered no link or proof of this claim. Can you?
    No, but I can show you that only 35% want government health care.

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