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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

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    That's the problem. Tit for tat. It's pathetic.
    I just know if I would ever trade a tit for a tat. Nah, it just isn't happening.
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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

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    Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling | Reuters
    Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:53pm EDT
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    By Andrew Quinn and James Vicini

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama's Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor fended off Republican attacks on Tuesday, saying "diversity on the bench is good for America" and promising rulings based on law, not racial bias.

    Grilled by Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sotomayor -- who would become the first Hispanic on the U.S. top court -- coolly explained the context for one of her most controversial comments: that a "wise Latina" might reach a better legal decision than a white man.

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    The lies she has been telling from the moment she was sworn in alone should disqualify her from the Judges position she currently holds let alone from the Supreme Court. Her record on the bench, her own statements, her affiliation with Racist organizations all largely being glossed or denied out right and she's being given a pass because the Republicans seriously fear being called racists if they go around asking real questions and then hold her to the same standard Ted Kennedy with Robert Bork back in 1986. Oh wait. Ted Kennedy made up all the lies he spewed from the Senate floor to discredit Bork. Everything that Kennedy said was proved latter to be lies but by then the Liberals got their way and the term Borked was born. So we need to keep our heads above the low level Kennedy set ans stick to the truth of her own record not to Bork her. No but to point out the facts and the truth before the unthinking Liberals ignore the truth and facts and rubber stamp her nomination because it's the Barack thing to do.

    "Unless you have a complete meltdown, you’re going to get confirmed,"
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    Dang if they keep up this grilling they might have to threaten the nuclear option.

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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Something that bothers me with one of the few answers I caught was in reguards to the 2nd amendment. She never (that I saw) said anything about the 2nd amendment protecting the rights of citizens to carry guns but instead skirts around a direct answer and say something like, " I know how important the 2nd amendment is to alot of americans".

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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Lindsey Graham's comment seemed rather misguided, and is the latest example of a tired rightist claim that references to various ethnic and racial groups ought to be interchangeable with references to whites. But the reality is simply that there's a homogeneity in cultural and economic conditions for ethnic and racial minorities in the U.S. that does not exist for the white majority, and therefore a greater propensity for members of minority groups to be directly influenced by the specific conditions that they find themselves in. This has nothing to do with inherent genetic differences, but mere environmental differences. Just as a black man would have acquired a greater perspective on the plights of blacks in times past and a Mexican immigrants on the plights of braceros, it's not unreasonable to expect a Puerto Rican to acquire a unique perspective that the majority of whites would be unable to, not because of some innate difference, but merely because of their placement in different environmental conditions.
    Environmental differences; such as? You do know that Puerto Ricans have full U.S. citizenship right? She's not even from Puerto Rico she's from the Bronx. But ya she's got her finger right on the pulse of Latino Americans.

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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    The confirmation hearings of today have become more of a photo-op and chance for Senators to connect with their constituency. The last 4 picks (Alito, Roberts, Ginsburg, Breyer) learned how to properly give an answer without answering the question. Which is actually quite fair considering that the Senate is not truly probing, but rather campaigning. I understand, and agree with the idea of having open hearings. But you do have to wonder if we would get a different result should the hearings be closed?

    Lindsey Graham was quite honest in his assessment yesterday when he said elections have consequences, and more specifically this is liberal-conservative politics. Kudos to Graham for honesty, for this is how the system works.
    Great post.

    The thread should have ended right there. But the hyper-partisans couldn't help themselves.

    She's a qualified jurist. Left of center. Everyone gets on TV. Thank you, good night.

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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Environmental differences; such as? You do know that Puerto Ricans have full U.S. citizenship right? She's not even from Puerto Rico she's from the Bronx. But ya she's got her finger right on the pulse of Latino Americans.
    I'll have to search for research regarding Puerto Ricans, but it's not exactly a well-hidden fact that there's rather limited social mobility for "Latino" Americans in general. For example, we could consult Livingston and Kahn's An American dream unfulfilled: The limited mobility of Mexican Americans.

    Immigrant men and women report lower wages than their second– and third–generation counterparts, but once human capital controls are added, the wage pattern becomes one of steady decline across generations for men, and stagnation or marginal decline across generations for women.
    The reality that there's generally different activities and general lifestyles experienced by different ethnic and racial groups seems an indisputable fact.
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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Yeh, I'd love to see the Repugs attack Sodomayor, and instantly lose every potential vote from Hispanic Americans. They are working on it, though.
    They can't help but let their racial leanings out into the open when they ask their questions. It's amazing. They really can't find anything to go after given her distinguished record, so they are flailing in the wind.

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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Yeh, I'd love to see the Repugs attack Sodomayor, and instantly lose every potential vote from Hispanic Americans. They are working on it, though.
    Contrary to what you may believe, "Hispanics" are not the intellectual equivalent of a bee hive. They are a diverse group of individuals with differing opinions - they don't just unite becuase of a perceived verbal attack on a woman who just happens to be hispanic.

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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Contrary to what you may believe, "Hispanics" are not the intellectual equivalent of a bee hive. They are a diverse group of individuals with differing opinions - they don't just unite becuase of a perceived verbal attack on a woman who just happens to be hispanic.
    If one justone intelligent Hispanic voted for me vs. a whole bee hive, I would consider my life to be fulfilled. I would loose the election but I would have at least one justone to have a fulfilling conversation about things with.









    Not with Sotomayor.

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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I'll have to search for research regarding Puerto Ricans, but it's not exactly a well-hidden fact that there's rather limited social mobility for "Latino" Americans in general.
    Ya limited to Princeton full scholarships and SCOTUS nominations.


    For example, we could consult Livingston and Kahn's An American dream unfulfilled: The limited mobility of Mexican Americans.

    The reality that there's generally different activities and general lifestyles experienced by different ethnic and racial groups seems an indisputable fact.
    Mexican Americans like Alberto Gonzalez? Do you even grasp the concept of pluralism?
    Last edited by Agent Ferris; 07-16-09 at 01:06 AM.

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