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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It doesn't mean they should go down without a fight.Basically they should give the democrats the same grief as the democrats did with the Bush ,that is why there were elected. They were not elected to be democrats.
    That's the problem. Tit for tat. It's pathetic.

    As Graham told Sotomayor, "I can assure you that if I applied Sen. Obama's standard to your nomination, I wouldn't vote for you, because the standard that he articulated would make it impossible for anybody with my view of the law and society to vote for someone with your activism and background when it comes to lawyering and judging."

    The judicial confirmation wars are like conflict in the Middle East, with a never-ending cycle of attacks and recriminations over grievances past. Sotomayor ought to be confirmed by an overwhelming vote, and perhaps Graham's colleagues will heed his counsel that "elections matter."

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    I'm no fan of Lindsey Graham, too much of a RINO to suit me. However, he did nail one thing in this dog'n-pony show. He asked Sotomayor about the "wise latina making better decisions than a white man" thing. She gave another one of her long, boring, mush-mouth non-answers. His reply was "You DO realize that if I had said anything remotely like that, they would have had my head?"

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    I have a healthy respect for Puerto Ricans.


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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm no fan of Lindsey Graham, too much of a RINO to suit me. However, he did nail one thing in this dog'n-pony show. He asked Sotomayor about the "wise latina making better decisions than a white man" thing. She gave another one of her long, boring, mush-mouth non-answers. His reply was "You DO realize that if I had said anything remotely like that, they would have had my head?"
    That "latina" comment of hers was porrly stated but if anyone does posses any intellectual honesty and is not just puking partisan poop read it within the context that it was said in and it is not racist or sexist. But we all know that the partisans will spin it in the worst possible way. The Democrats and the left did just that with Clarence de Thomas's foibles. This is just political theatre but I hope that not too much horse pockey will fall in this dog and pony show !!!
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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    I have a healthy respect for Puerto Ricans.

    A couple pairs of those thighs look as if they could crunch you but two of them do appear to have intelligent asses. And that is not meant to be an oxymoron. That's my on the street political opinion.
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    Lindsey Graham's comment seemed rather misguided, and is the latest example of a tired rightist claim that references to various ethnic and racial groups ought to be interchangeable with references to whites. But the reality is simply that there's a homogeneity in cultural and economic conditions for ethnic and racial minorities in the U.S. that does not exist for the white majority, and therefore a greater propensity for members of minority groups to be directly influenced by the specific conditions that they find themselves in. This has nothing to do with inherent genetic differences, but mere environmental differences. Just as a black man would have acquired a greater perspective on the plights of blacks in times past and a Mexican immigrants on the plights of braceros, it's not unreasonable to expect a Puerto Rican to acquire a unique perspective that the majority of whites would be unable to, not because of some innate difference, but merely because of their placement in different environmental conditions.

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    A couple pairs of those thighs look as if they could crunch you but two of them do appear to have intelligent asses. And that is not meant to be an oxymoron. That's my on the street political opinion.
    That's the point, actually, and why the two on the right seem more appealing to me. I don't bear much ethnic and racial similarity to many "Latinos," but we've been raised in a somewhat similar culture (though I think there's evolutionary origins for this sentiment), and we generally don't object to large thighs and asses. Quite the opposite, in fact.

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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    That "latina" comment of hers was porrly stated but if anyone does posses any intellectual honesty and is not just puking partisan poop read it within the context that it was said in and it is not racist or sexist. But we all know that the partisans will spin it in the worst possible way. The Democrats and the left did just that with Clarence de Thomas's foibles. This is just political theatre but I hope that not too much horse pockey will fall in this dog and pony show !!!

    I'd really like to know how her comment, that a "wise latina would come to a better decision than a white male" could not be construed as racially biased?

    If anyone actually thinks that if, let's say Scalia, had ever been found to have said "a wise white man would make better decisions that a hispanic female", that he would not have been crucified (mediawise and politically) as a racist pig?

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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'd really like to know how her comment, that a "wise latina would come to a better decision than a white male" could not be construed as racially biased?

    If anyone actually thinks that if, let's say Scalia, had ever been found to have said "a wise white man would make better decisions that a hispanic female", that he would not have been crucified (mediawise and politically) as a racist pig?

    My opinions are honest, not partisan hackery. I despise the Republican party as a whole only slightly less than I do the Democrat party.
    I do not have the quote handy but Scalia did say that his background of having his people experience the prejudice of ethic slurs, ethnic hatred and roadblocks to emplyment did give him a diferent view. Try to find that quote. I have to run a virus program now but I will try to find it since I would love to wave it in afew faces- intellectually of course and in good fun.
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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'd really like to know how her comment, that a "wise latina would come to a better decision than a white male" could not be construed as racially biased?

    If anyone actually thinks that if, let's say Scalia, had ever been found to have said "a wise white man would make better decisions that a hispanic female", that he would not have been crucified (mediawise and politically) as a racist pig?

    My opinions are honest, not partisan hackery. I despise the Republican party as a whole only slightly less than I do the Democrat party.
    BTW The partisanship I was referring to was of the Senators not you!!!
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    Re: Sotomayor cool under Republican grilling

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I do not have the quote handy but Scalia did say that his background of having his people experience the prejudice of ethic slurs, ethnic hatred and roadblocks to emplyment did give him a diferent view. Try to find that quote. I have to run a virus program now but I will try to find it since I would love to wave it in afew faces- intellectually of course and in good fun.
    Saying "my experiences as a _____ have given me perspective" is one thing. In one manner or another, we all have perspectives shaped by our life experiences.

    I'd have to assert that it is very different if any SCOTUS candidate, or any politician, saying that "X race would make better decisions than Y race" would be politically crucified...IF the politician/judge/etc were white. I can't see it as anything but a double-standard, and in our society that alleges its worship of racial equality I find that an appalling hypocrisy.

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