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    Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by azrepublic
    Gov. Jan Brewer on Monday signed into law tight new restrictions on access to abortion in Arizona, imposing a 24-hour waiting period on women seeking the procedure and requiring that minors first receive written, notarized consent from a parent or guardian.

    The Republican governor also expanded the rights of gun owners by allowing those with a concealed-carry permit to take their firearms into establishments that serve alcohol, but she cited wildfire concerns in rejecting a proposal that would have legalized the sale of small fireworks in the state.
    Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Seriously?

    The party of liberty / freedom, and all they ****ing worry about is imposing their moral beliefs on society? Jesus ****ing christ. The repukes wonder why everyone hated them this last election cycle. blah.

    This also gives doctors / pharmacists the right to deny you treatment / plan b (cause plan b is abortion)... alsdfkjasldfkjasdflkjasdflkjasdlfj ****ing idiot ass conservatives.


    CCW in bars / restaurants is a great thing, hopefully now we'll not have anymore mass murders like in lubbock or liddy I can't remember Texas where a gunman went into a Luby's and opened fire. Keeping in mind that CCWers can't drink.. and well.. they have to have a legal CCW.. in the state.
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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Seriously?

    The party of liberty / freedom, and all they ****ing worry about is imposing their moral beliefs on society? Jesus ****ing christ. The repukes wonder why everyone hated them this last election cycle. blah.

    This also gives doctors / pharmacists the right to deny you treatment / plan b (cause plan b is abortion)... alsdfkjasldfkjasdflkjasdflkjasdlfj ****ing idiot ass conservatives.


    CCW in bars / restaurants is a great thing, hopefully now we'll not have anymore mass murders like in lubbock or liddy I can't remember Texas where a gunman went into a Luby's and opened fire. Keeping in mind that CCWers can't drink.. and well.. they have to have a legal CCW.. in the state.
    Why would go to a bar if you can't drink? People will carry, drink, and shooting deaths will go up over drunken disputes. Restaurants are one thing, but having them in bars is stupid.

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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Seriously?

    The party of liberty / freedom, and all they ****ing worry about is imposing their moral beliefs on society? Jesus ****ing christ. The repukes wonder why everyone hated them this last election cycle. blah.

    This also gives doctors / pharmacists the right to deny you treatment / plan b (cause plan b is abortion)... alsdfkjasldfkjasdflkjasdflkjasdlfj ****ing idiot ass conservatives.


    CCW in bars / restaurants is a great thing, hopefully now we'll not have anymore mass murders like in lubbock or liddy I can't remember Texas where a gunman went into a Luby's and opened fire. Keeping in mind that CCWers can't drink.. and well.. they have to have a legal CCW.. in the state.
    Minors have limited rights to begin with. I have no problem with the parents being involved.

    What is the problem with a 24 hour waiting period? It seems to be OK to put waiting periods on gun purchases, but not abortions?
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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Why would go to a bar if you can't drink? People will carry, drink, and shooting deaths will go up over drunken disputes. Restaurants are one thing, but having them in bars is stupid.
    This sounds just like the people who cried that gun fights in the streets would erupt because of conceal carry.

    No evidence exist to support your claim.
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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This sounds just like the people who cried that gun fights in the streets would erupt because of conceal carry.

    No evidence exist to support your claim.
    Let's see, gun fights in the street from concealed carry is about as ignorant as allowing people to get ****faced drunk and pack a weapon around. You go sit in the bar with them.

    Let me clarify, it is common ****ing sense. I would never had thought that concealed carry would have caused any problems, but in a bar? You must be kidding.
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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Why would go to a bar if you can't drink? People will carry, drink, and shooting deaths will go up over drunken disputes. Restaurants are one thing, but having them in bars is stupid.

    I quite often go out with friends to bars and don't drink.. I'm the designated driver, and I have my ccw.

    what's your point?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Minors have limited rights to begin with. I have no problem with the parents being involved.

    What is the problem with a 24 hour waiting period? It seems to be OK to put waiting periods on gun purchases, but not abortions?
    I have major problems with 24 hour wait periods on gun purchases as well. I'm a vocal supporter of small government, and this isn't small government... like the repukes like to claim they're for.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    This sounds just like the people who cried that gun fights in the streets would erupt because of conceal carry.

    No evidence exist to support your claim.
    The same people who claimed that when AZ switched to a shall-issue CCW state.. that said it'd be the OK Corral and blood would flow in the streets... and our police officers would be dying left and right... Still hasn't happened..

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Let's see, gun fights in the street from concealed carry is about as ignorant as allowing people to get ****faced drunk and pack a weapon around. You go sit in the bar with them.

    Let me clarify, it is common ****ing sense. I would never had thought that concealed carry would have caused any problems, but in a bar? You must be kidding.

    Show us statistics where CCW'ers in 34 other states are committing violent crimes in their states bars where liquor is... or in their resturants?

    Until then, you're just talking out of your emotional little ass. btw, it's illegal for them to conceal carry in a bar and drink.... Nice try though.
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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post

    What is the problem with a 24 hour waiting period? It seems to be OK to put waiting periods on gun purchases, but not abortions?
    It would be funny to see all those who think there should waiting periods on firearms piss and moan about waiting period on abortions. If something that is actually a right have waiting periods imposed on it then something that is not a right and nowhere in the constitution defined as a right can have waiting periods imposed on it too.
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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    I quite often go out with friends to bars and don't drink.. I'm the designated driver, and I have my ccw.

    what's your point?



    I have major problems with 24 hour wait periods on gun purchases as well. I'm a vocal supporter of small government, and this isn't small government... like the repukes like to claim they're for.



    The same people who claimed that when AZ switched to a shall-issue CCW state.. that said it'd be the OK Corral and blood would flow in the streets... and our police officers would be dying left and right... Still hasn't happened..




    Show us statistics where CCW'ers in 34 other states are committing violent crimes in their states bars where liquor is... or in their resturants?

    Until then, you're just talking out of your emotional little ass. btw, it's illegal for them to conceal carry in a bar and drink.... Nice try though.
    I have a CCW, but whether Texas would ever make it legal inside bars or not, I will still leave my gun in my glove box. You should never take a gun into a bar under any circumstance. You are only asking for trouble. Convenience stores are another story. They sell alcohol, but nobody is supposed to drink on premises. That is against the law, so IMHO, not being able to carry inside a convenience store is a dumb law.
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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    The party of liberty / freedom, and all they ****ing worry about is imposing their moral beliefs on society?
    Let's see, 2 issues at hand... gun rights, and rights of the fetus. What the hell do either of them have to do with "imposing moral beliefs on society"?

    Jesus ****ing christ. The repukes wonder why everyone hated them this last election cycle. blah.
    "repukes"? Come on, be creative here.

    This also gives doctors / pharmacists the right to deny you treatment / plan b (cause plan b is abortion)... alsdfkjasldfkjasdflkjasdflkjasdlfj ****ing idiot ass conservatives.
    Translation: UGGGGGG! I HATE CONSERVATIVES SOOOO MUCH!!!1!

    Jesus, you disagree with some people, get over it. It's not the end of the world if some people hold views you don't like.

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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have a CCW, but whether Texas would ever make it legal inside bars or not, I will still leave my gun in my glove box. You should never take a gun into a bar under any circumstance. You are only asking for trouble. Convenience stores are another story. They sell alcohol, but nobody is supposed to drink on premises. That is against the law, so IMHO, not being able to carry inside a convenience store is a dumb law.
    So, you believe that CCW holders are irresponsible?


    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Let's see, 2 issues at hand... gun rights, and rights of the fetus. What the hell do either of them have to do with "imposing moral beliefs on society"?



    "repukes"? Come on, be creative here.



    Translation: UGGGGGG! I HATE CONSERVATIVES SOOOO MUCH!!!1!

    Jesus, you disagree with some people, get over it. It's not the end of the world if some people hold views you don't like.


    Seriously? I disagree with people every day... That's perfectly fine... up until they encroach on our rights as an american citizen... Libs for their bull**** gun control, and repukes for their bull**** morality complexes they try and enforce on society.

    Both are ****ing retarded, and both can't get the idea that more government isn't the solution. If you can't get that is what I'm getting at.. then you're lost.
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