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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Why would you expect your friends to come over, drink and pull guns out? This says more about the company you keep than any law.
    Because he's emotionally arguing... Much like the liberals tried when the sunset of the AWB happened.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Like gay-marriage, other states are already doing it, and society didn't come crashing down for them.
    Gay marriage doesn't kill anyone. You need a better example.

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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Fine, just watch and see, and when we have even more regulation down the road from such laws being passed and increased violence, there will be no one to blame.

    The only hope is that bar owners ban CC on their premises.
    You realize, that 34 other states have similar legislation, right? They've not had the apocalypse come to their doorstep.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    The party of liberty / freedom, and all they ****ing worry about is imposing their moral beliefs on society?
    This is such a tired and threadbare argument. It hardly rises to the level of abusurdity.

    Almost all law represents the imposition of moral belliefs. This would include the laws protecting private property, enfourcing equal rights, restricting slander and outlawing other forms of murder.
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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    This is such a tired and threadbare arument. It hardly rises to the level of abusurdity.

    Almost all law represents the imposition of moral belliefs. This would include the laws protecting private property, enfourcing equal rights, restricting slander and outlawing other forms of murder.
    Protecting my property is protecting my right to life liberty and happiness.

    Protecting people's rights, well look above.. You can't not have equal rights with the above.

    Restricting slander, same look above.

    Outlawing other forms of murder? Such as? Murder in general affects my rights to life liberty and happiness as well.

    What's your point other than you have none? And yes, I know I used a double negative in there.
    George Washington didn't use his freedom of speech to win the war with Britain... He shot them.

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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Fine, just watch and see, and when we have even more regulation down the road from such laws being passed and increased violence, there will be no one to blame.

    The only hope is that bar owners ban CC on their premises.
    Then you will be waiting a long time as this has been legal in other states for awhile. Guess what? No bar room blood bathes because of CC holders.
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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Gay marriage doesn't kill anyone. You need a better example.
    No I don't.

    The feared apocalyptic predictions did not occur in either case. The Slippery Slope did not happen.

    You still can't get drunk while carrying. Depending on the city ordinance, I doubt you could even have a single beer while carrying.

    Simply being in the building enjoying some hot-wings and shooting pool with some bros does not make your gun fly out of the holster and kill people.

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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    So, you believe that CCW holders are irresponsible?






    Seriously? I disagree with people every day... That's perfectly fine... up until they encroach on our rights as an american citizen... Libs for their bull**** gun control, and repukes for their bull**** morality complexes they try and enforce on society.

    Both are ****ing retarded, and both can't get the idea that more government isn't the solution. If you can't get that is what I'm getting at.. then you're lost.
    CCW holders are still human.
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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by stevenb View Post
    Because he's emotionally arguing... Much like the liberals tried when the sunset of the AWB happened.
    I am not emotionally arguing anything. If you cannot see the potential problems that may arise from this, then I hope you are never in a position of responsibility. And again, I have never supported any type of gun control, even the AWB. I simply think there must be limits. And people may not intend to get drunk, but people can be having a good time, have a few, someone bumps into them, and everyone starts shooting.

    Or perhaps, you are not drinking. But another guy is, he is big and drunk and mean and wants to kick your ass, and you know he can. How simple it would be to pull that gun out and shut his mouth. You can say this is fantasy or whatever, but this is irresponsible and if you have any sense at all, you realize that there is risk.

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    Re: Governor signs bills on guns, abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    I am not emotionally arguing anything. If you cannot see the potential problems that may arise from this, then I hope you are never in a position of responsibility. And again, I have never supported any type of gun control, even the AWB. I simply think there must be limits. And people may not intend to get drunk, but people can be having a good time, have a few, someone bumps into them, and everyone starts shooting.

    Or perhaps, you are not drinking. But another guy is, he is big and drunk and mean and wants to kick your ass, and you know he can. How simple it would be to pull that gun out and shut his mouth. You can say this is fantasy or whatever, but this is irresponsible and if you have any sense at all, you realize that there is risk.
    Real people aren't acting out your imaginings, though....at least not any more than they did while a ban was in place.

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