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C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

Catman said:
Scuza me, but does it offend some people that AQ bosses were targeted for death?
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Not at all; what I find offensive is that the operations never happened and now, thanks to Democrat stupidity, never will.
 
Lerxst said:
The irony here is seeing folks be so understanding of the Bush administration for not being able to pull this off. Of course when Clinton tried the exact same thing and the Pentagon told him they just couldn't do it, when he personally requested "black ops" teams to go in covertly and snatch or kill enemies and was told "we just don't have the kind of resources to do that"....well Clinton was incompetent, Clinton did nothing, in fact I was remember being called a liar...as was Richard Clarke...because "the Pentagon and CIA just don't say no to the President." :roll:
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Once more we have your OPINION about the issues surrounding Clinton's failure to act on information of Osama's whereabouts which is what I believe you are referring to here.

Clinton certainly did NOTHING of the same thing and Clinton wasn't criticized as incompetent for not acting, he was criticized for his inability to act on ANYTHING; he may have been too busy seducing interns to care.

But I look forward to seeing some FACTS to support your OPINIONs about why Clinton was criticized.

It defies logic to me that anyone can still defend such a philandering liar; but there you go again. It begs the question, what does this have to do with the thread topic; NOT A DAMNED thing.
 
Truth Detector said:
Not at all; what I find offensive is that the operations never happened and now, thanks to Democrat stupidity, never will.
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The program was in existence for 8 years, yet you blame "Democratic stupidity" on its failure. Typical.
 
I sure hope the Democrats have hearings and attempt to charge the previous administration with war crimes; should be entertaining to say the least.

But alas, do not expect anything more than the typical public posturing using the willing drive-by media to prosecute the previous administration once again in the court of public opinion, but no charges will ever be brought because as ignorant as the Congressional Democrats are, they know they do not have a case and it is not their desire to prove it when their main goal is merely to dis-inform the American people and divert attention away from their own incompetence.

But one thing we can all be assured of in this debate; the American people are LESS secure than they were in 2006 and will continue to be placed at great risk through the desperate efforts and political posturing by Democrats who could care less about our safety or the poor, but merely see it as OPPORTUNITY to expand their political power.
 
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Not at all; what I find offensive is that the operations never happened and now, thanks to Democrat stupidity, never will.
WillRockwell said:
The program was in existence for 8 years, yet you blame "Democratic stupidity" on its failure. Typical.
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I am seriously doubting your ability to read and comprehend. :roll:
 
WillRockwell said:
There is no evidence yet, so how are you so sure the program was not operational? What exactly did the DCI cancel last week, a conversation? Even with the little we know about this program, it is clear multiple crimes were committed. It has nothing to do with hating Bush, but of loving the ideals this country stands for and abhorring those who take advantage of their trust and position to undermine America.
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All the information that's been coming out supports this mission not being in the operational phase. If it did become operational, then it will mean that members of the intelligence committee illegally leaked classified information and should be held accountable for that illegal activity. That sort of conduct is definitely going to undermine America.

Targetting enemy operatives for assassination isn't illegal.
 
WillRockwell said:
They had eight years, and the incoming Director of Central Intelligence was not informed of the existence of the program. So you have a private citizen, Dick Cheney, who for six months has kept knowledge of an operational CIA program to himself. Does this not stink?
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So what do you think this is the only thing that Mr.Cheney has knowledge of and kept it to himself. I'm guessing there are hundreds of items that he and Mr. Bush a few few select folk shave knowledge of and by LAW are duty bond to keep quite.


Question who's respouncablety is it to brief the in-come director huh was it Mr. Cheney,Mr. Bush nope neither of them are required by Law to brief them it is up to the outgoing Director.

Oh and since your hung up on this whole Eight Year thing, do you know how long the following CIA Operation went on before they became public,

Operation Gold,Mongoose,Paperclip,National Interest,Silver, all of these strated out as just a discussion and ended up running from anywhere from 2 Years to 15 Years before Congress got any wind of them.
 
Gibberish said:
Why exactly didn't Cheney and Bush execute this plan they had for 7 years?
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Easy:
As soon as the liberals caught wind of it, they would have blown the secret, destroyed the program, unnecessarily endangered Americans lives - all while happily making political hay.
 
goldendog said:
Seriously where was this big CIA assination plan back in the first gulf war when George SR. and Dick Cheney refused to take out the dreaded Saddam?
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It was and is illegal to assissinate the leader of a country.
 
Goobieman said:
Easy:
As soon as the liberals caught wind of it, they would have blown the secret, destroyed the program, unnecessarily endangered Americans lives - all while happily making political hay.
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Oh is that what happened? God you are priceless:doh
 
WillRockwell said:
Oh is that what happened? God you are priceless:doh
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Of course that's what happened. How else could their actions be defined?

What reason would a member of Congress have, to leak classified material, other than political?
 
Truth Detector said:
Once more we have your OPINION about the issues surrounding Clinton's failure to act on information of Osama's whereabouts which is what I believe you are referring to here.

Clinton certainly did NOTHING of the same thing and Clinton wasn't criticized as incompetent for not acting, he was criticized for his inability to act on ANYTHING; he may have been too busy seducing interns to care.

But I look forward to seeing some FACTS to support your OPINIONs about why Clinton was criticized.

It defies logic to me that anyone can still defend such a philandering liar; but there you go again. It begs the question, what does this have to do with the thread topic; NOT A DAMNED thing.
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What defies logic is how you managed to survive in the wilderness as an infant. You no longer merit the effort of debate, son.

SON!

:rofl

you're dismissed.....
 
Kandahar said:
Without congressional AUTHORITY, yes. Without congressional KNOWLEDGE? That gets a bit murkier. It's dangerous to allow the President to do whatever he wants without even telling Congress. Who is going to oversee him to make sure he doesn't exceed his authority?

I'm not suggesting that Nancy Pelosi needs to be privy to every conversation that takes place in the Situation Room...but if it goes beyond just conversation and a program or policy is actually started, then congressional leaders should be notified.
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We can have a good debate about what makes the best policy, but to the best of my knowledge there was no statutory requirement that Congress be notified about this operation at this stage.

tlmorg02 said:
The question makes no sense. If they are under obligation to brief the Congressional Oversight Committee on CIA activities, then by withholding info or misleading members, they are in violation.
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This is why I asked you to provide the actual language that imposes these obligations. I think that if you read it, you'll find that it's not as clear cut as you think.

WillRockwell said:
The program was cancelled only last week, after going on for 8 years. Does that sound like conversation to you?
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It cost around $1m over 8 years. In what alternate universe can the government actually run anything on $125k a year?

To me, that is irrefutable proof that absolutely nothing ever happened with this beyond a few people brainstorming and making slick powerpoints.
 
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I am not a Cheney fan but the klling of Al Qaeda or cOMMUNISTS or Chavez is a great goal to pursue.
 
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RightinNYC said:
It cost around $1m over 8 years. In what alternate universe can the government actually run anything on $125k a year?

To me, that is irrefutable proof that absolutely nothing ever happened with this beyond a few people brainstorming and making slick powerpoints.
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Except now they're saying that there were people assasinated.
 
WillRockwell said:
Except now they're saying that there were people assasinated.
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And the problem is? If they scored a few kills, then I'm even more impressed. The cats they killed probablt deserved to die, anyway.

Wouldn't it be a hoot if this CIA op bagged UBL, but they couldn't say anything, because of the program's sensitive nature? The Libbos would have to eat **** for years over that one :rofl
 
WillRockwell said:
Except now they're saying that there were people assasinated.
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Really I just googled that and nothing not from Fox,CNN MSNBC,BBC.nor any of the Major Print News Outlets.

Even if they have done this so what they haven't broke any Federal Laws just as long as they didn't kill an Elected Foreign Official then its falls under what the CIA does.
 
WillRockwell said:
They had eight years of secrecy to get this program operational. Is this just another example of Bush/Cheney incompetence?
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Oh yes! It MUST be incompetence. Cuz, you know, it's so easy to maintain long term clandestine operations against a hostile, decentralized force of extremists. Piece of cake! Barack Obama could work this out on the back of a napkin.

And it MUST be Bush/Cheney's fault because we know they are both personally responsible for the operational aspects of clandestine missions. I'm of the opinion that the Vice President should take point on every assassination raid we conduct.
 
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