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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    This is the absurd now quarterly Democrat lies/crimes/conspiracies Nonsense.

    Pelosi should be removed as Speaker.
    You are six weeks behind on your Republican Talking Points Daily Memo. Pelosi was right, she was lied to. In fact, CIA director Panetta was also lied to.

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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe1991 View Post
    Sorry, but we do not have dictators in this country.

    In matters of covert ops, the Director of Central Intelligence by law must notify the intelligence oversight committees of the Congress.

    If the CIA was ordered not to tell congress as has been charged, this is about as serious as it gets.
    It was not a "covert ops." It was being discussed, but was never implemented.

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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    It was not a "covert ops." It was being discussed, but was never implemented.
    I'll be willing to bet that it was implemented.

    Does anyone believe the secret CIA program that former VP Cheney illegally hid from Congress (a felony) was really for the capture or killing of Al Quieda terrorists?
    I think all Americans would applaud & expect such a program after 9/11 & would certainly have not required such illegal secrecy from our own Congress, nor would have "Turned the stomachs" of Leon Panetta (CIA Director) & Congressional watchdogs when they were recently briefed on it.
    I'd guess the program involved much worse things (like killing detainees, torturing them to death, etc) which would have truly turned us into Nazi's.

    Cheney & any other high up officials must be brought to justice, if my fears are correct. (of course, we could always blame Lindy English again!)

    I know Obama wants to look ahead & forget the past (for political reasons) but we didn't just forgive Nazi or Japanese war criminals after WWII & we need to clean our own house if we ever hope to regain our moral standing in the world.

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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I'll be willing to bet that it was implemented.

    Does anyone believe the secret CIA program that former VP Cheney illegally hid from Congress (a felony) was really for the capture or killing of Al Quieda terrorists?
    I think all Americans would applaud & expect such a program after 9/11 & would certainly have not required such illegal secrecy from our own Congress, nor would have "Turned the stomachs" of Leon Panetta (CIA Director) & Congressional watchdogs when they were recently briefed on it.
    I'd guess the program involved much worse things (like killing detainees, torturing them to death, etc) which would have truly turned us into Nazi's.

    Cheney & any other high up officials must be brought to justice, if my fears are correct. (of course, we could always blame Lindy English again!)

    I know Obama wants to look ahead & forget the past (for political reasons) but we didn't just forgive Nazi or Japanese war criminals after WWII & we need to clean our own house if we ever hope to regain our moral standing in the world.
    If you have proof for a single thing you posted, let's see it. Otherwise it's just conjecture.

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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    It was not a "covert ops." It was being discussed, but was never implemented.
    How was it not "covert ops"? Neither Congress nor the incoming DCI were informed of its existence? Do you really believed it was "discussed" for eight years yet never used?

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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    1 - Why could Congress not be told of this?
    2 - we DID kill Qaeda leaders. What program was that under?
    3 - How do we know this program was only for AlQaeda?



    They had eight years of secrecy to get this program operational. Is this just another example of Bush/Cheney incompetence?
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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    He's saying it wasn't a covert op because it never moved out of the planning stage into the actual operational stage.

    And wow Devil, do you write novels, cause that was a **** ton of conjecture and fiction trumped up to try and look like reality in that little spew you just did.

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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    Why exactly didn't Cheney and Bush execute this plan they had for 7 years? Was Saddam more of an imminent threat than Al-Qaeda?
    That was explained in the article. Hunter-Killer teams make for great Hollywood but are damn difficult to stage logistically.

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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    How was it not "covert ops"? Neither Congress nor the incoming DCI were informed of its existence? Do you really believed it was "discussed" for eight years yet never used?
    I'd be willing to bet that literally thousands of potential ops are discussed but never used.

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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I'll be willing to bet that it was implemented.
    You don't play poker much, obviously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Does anyone believe the secret CIA program that former VP Cheney illegally hid from Congress (a felony) was really for the capture or killing of Al Quieda terrorists?
    The media does. Considering their basic dislike of Cheney, why would they whitewash it?

    Also, care to cite what law requires the CIA to brief Congress on plans that are not at the implementation phase?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I think all Americans would applaud & expect such a program after 9/11 & would certainly have not required such illegal secrecy from our own Congress, nor would have "Turned the stomachs" of Leon Panetta (CIA Director) & Congressional watchdogs when they were recently briefed on it.
    Ever see what a head shot looks like in real life? If Panetta had to see any training films for such a hunting expedition, I can easily believe the realities of it would turn his stomach. Sniper fire isn't the quick clean bloodless killing you see in Hollywood. A 7.62x51mm round from an M40 is going to make a lot of hamburger meat when it finds its intended target.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I'd guess the program involved much worse things (like killing detainees, torturing them to death, etc) which would have truly turned us into Nazi's.
    Oh please. If there was a program for killing detainees, there wouldn't be the relocation problems with detainees that Bush had and Dear Leader has (no detainees, no problem, simple math).

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I know Obama wants to look ahead & forget the past (for political reasons) but we didn't just forgive Nazi or Japanese war criminals after WWII & we need to clean our own house if we ever hope to regain our moral standing in the world.
    It was politics when we staged the kangaroo court known as the Nuremberg trials and its politics now. A large number of senior American military leadership opposed the war crimes trials after WWII, chiefly because there was little the Germans did in WWII that the Allies did not also do (firebombing Dresden, use of napalm over Tokyo, unrestricted submarine warfare in the Pacific, et cetera).

    Nuremberg was bad law then, and Holder's threats of prosecutors is bad law now. It's this pathological pursuit of bad policy and bad law that makes folks on the left lunatics.

    The proper course is to let these matters fade into history--but that would require the lunatic left abandoning their unreasoning hatred of President Bush, so of course the lunatic left has rejected it.
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