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    Re: Will the Liar?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    This is just one plan. Do you excuse our government for doing things that are not legal, and by that I mean ANYTHING the U.S. has done? And if so, how is that any different than Iran, or NK?

    Or do you think that ANYTHING the U.S. does is good. Just curious.
    How is killing the enemy illegal?
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    Re: Will the Liar?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How is killing the enemy illegal?
    The "enemy" is defined by however the government wants it to be.

    The fact that people don't have a say so in who the enemy should be without any oversight would scare the hell out of even me.

    When the "enemy" is defined as anyone against Obama and should be killed, would you then feel there should be some oversight?

    the requirement to just notify "certain" people of congress scares the hell out of me, doesn't it you?
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    Re: Will the Liar?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How is killing the enemy illegal?
    Even warfare has rules & you can be executed for breaking them.
    The Geneva conventions make many ways of killing the enemy illegal. (example: You can't kill an unarmed enemy trying to surrender, etc)

    Only the Bush/Cheney regime felt it was above the law.

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    Re: Will the Liar?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Collateral damage is the nature of warfare. It's as old as warfare, itself. Collateral damage in American military history goes back as far as the Civil War. Maybe farther, but I know for sure as far back as the CW.
    This isn't necessarily "warfare." It's counter terrorist operations when we are talking about taking out specific Al Qaeda or Taliban operatives.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: Will the Liar?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The problem is the plan is now revealed.
    Not really. The plan has only been revealed on the most macro of levels. Nothing operational or organizational was revealed. Only the fact that we were trying to pull it off. Besides, I think most of us assumed we were doing this anyway. Nothing here was jeopardized.
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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    Agreed Olbermann is not a news reporter, but his producers are, and his program relies on content from NBC News, which is real news.
    lol, ****ing no. Keith Olbermann is literally a mirror image of O'Reilly, except probably a little stupider. Would you believe something that O'Reilly claimed that nobody else was reporting simply because he's under the umbrella of Fox news?

    Provide a real link, or don't. I don't really care.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    However can you honestly disprove or contest what he was saying or showing? His status as a liberal talking head only matters when you can directly discredit the story based upon his bias or prove he's twisting the context to suit his own end.

    Can you do that in this case?
    There is literally no other source than alex jones that I can find that backs this claim up.
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    Re: Will the Liar?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Even warfare has rules & you can be executed for breaking them.
    The Geneva conventions make many ways of killing the enemy illegal. (example: You can't kill an unarmed enemy trying to surrender, etc)

    Only the Bush/Cheney regime felt it was above the law.
    Killing enemy is the rule #1 of war. The rule #2 is to stay alive. the rule # 3 is to assure that your comrades stay alive and follow the rule#1. You can kill an unarmed enemy trying to surrender if not killing him treatens your task of following the rule #1, #2 and #3.

    The rule #1 overrides all other rules. No country signed under the convention would argue.

    Are you following the rule #1?

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    Re: Will the Liar?

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Even warfare has rules & you can be executed for breaking them.
    The Geneva conventions make many ways of killing the enemy illegal. (example: You can't kill an unarmed enemy trying to surrender, etc)

    Only the Bush/Cheney regime felt it was above the law.
    Can you show me what part of the Geneva Convention was violated?

    (This is always a fun game)
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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    There is literally no other source than alex jones that I can find that backs this claim up.
    Really? Yikes, too bad.
    *insert profound statement here*

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    Re: C.I.A. Had Plan to Assassinate Qaeda Leaders

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The "enemy" is defined by however the government wants it to be.

    The fact that people don't have a say so in who the enemy should be without any oversight would scare the hell out of even me.

    When the "enemy" is defined as anyone against Obama and should be killed, would you then feel there should be some oversight?

    the requirement to just notify "certain" people of congress scares the hell out of me, doesn't it you?

    What scares the hell out of me, is that some people want to actually sit around and allow politicians debate about who the bad guys really are.


    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Even warfare has rules & you can be executed for breaking them.
    The Geneva conventions make many ways of killing the enemy illegal. (example: You can't kill an unarmed enemy trying to surrender, etc)

    Only the Bush/Cheney regime felt it was above the law.

    One, sniping isn't illegal. Two, making laws about how to kill someone is infinitely idotic. Three, it's not illegal to kill a surrendering enemy, if you believe that taking him prisoner will jeopardize your safety, the safety of your unit, or the mission. No one is expected to stop, in the middle of a firefight, to take an enemy fighter prisoner. The Geneva Convention only applies after the battle is over, in regard to the treatment of POW's.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    This isn't necessarily "warfare." It's counter terrorist operations when we are talking about taking out specific Al Qaeda or Taliban operatives.

    When you send the military out to hunt down and kill the enemy, it's warfare.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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