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    Re: Obama Threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill Over F-22 Funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I do not support an auto bailout for the same reason I do not support wasteful military spending: I don't see any economic benefit in propping up the manufacturing industry by giving them free taxpayer money.
    I dicked that one up.
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    Re: Obama Threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill Over F-22 Funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I do not support an auto bailout for the same reason I do not support wasteful military spending: I don't see any economic benefit in propping up the manufacturing industry by giving them free taxpayer money.

    The banks are different, because credit is the lifeblood of our economy. My reasons for that have nothing to do with keeping people employed in banks, and are unrelated to the subject at hand.



    I don't know what word you're looking for, but I'm pretty sure it isn't redundant.
    man you have no idea about the Defense Industry at all you do understand that for ever 1 Job they have they create 4 to 6 un-related Jobs, I suggest you go and re-read my above post on what Company would be effected and how broad the Defense industry is.

    As for the banks mmm wonder how all of those Defense Related Credit Unions would do huh or you do under stand that Wall Street was build on the back of the Defense Industry and its off shots.

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    Re: Obama Threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill Over F-22 Funding

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    man you have no idea about the Defense Industry at all you do understand that for ever 1 Job they have they create 4 to 6 un-related Jobs, I suggest you go and re-read my above post on what Company would be effected and how broad the Defense industry is.
    Alot of our political counterparts have zero business sense. Beats all I ever seen; the group that prides themselves on being smarter than the rest of us and don't have the first damn clue about how business works.
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    Re: Obama Threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill Over F-22 Funding

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, you do support propping up a labor union, so it's members can sit at home and draw bennies?
    I do? What are you talking about? What part of "I do not support an auto bailout" did you not understand? I don't think I can be more clear than that.

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    Where's the economic benefit in that? Awarding a military contract to a company isn't, "propping up". And, by no means is the money, "free". Just think of all the taxes that are going to be made back on that money, both in income taxes and sales taxes.
    It is propping them up if the only reason we're buying stuff from them that we don't need is because you don't want people to lose their jobs.
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    Re: Obama Threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill Over F-22 Funding

    Just like in maufacturing, pilots will be replaced with drones before long, and all this controversy will be mute. Sorry Scorpion.

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    Re: Obama Threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill Over F-22 Funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    man you have no idea about the Defense Industry at all you do understand that for ever 1 Job they have they create 4 to 6 un-related Jobs, I suggest you go and re-read my above post on what Company would be effected and how broad the Defense industry is.
    So then we should just waste as much money as possible on the DoD, right? Who cares if we actually NEED the things we're buying for military effectiveness? After all, the purpose of the military is to be a charity for the manufacturing sector, not to defend our country. Right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89
    As for the banks mmm wonder how all of those Defense Related Credit Unions would do huh or you do under stand that Wall Street was build on the back of the Defense Industry and its off shots.
    As I already told you, my reasons for supporting a bank bailout have absolutely nothing to do with the success or failure of individual banks or employees. They are not relevant to the subject at hand; if you want to discuss the bank bailouts, you can create a separate thread.
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    Re: Obama Threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill Over F-22 Funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I do? What are you talking about? What part of "I do not support an auto bailout" did you not understand? I don't think I can be more clear than that.
    Brain fart. My bad. Edited it. Sorry.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill Over F-22 Funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Makes sense to me. It's not popular to say it, but the military is one of the most wasteful parts of our government. If Obama can shave over a billion dollars off of the deficit by forgoing a needless expense, kudos to him.
    Don't even ****ing go there okay. Go play "hijack a thread" some ****ing-where else. You know I'm getting tired of people like you coming in and ****ing up a thread with that bull**** about defense spending.
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    Re: Obama Threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill Over F-22 Funding

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    Don't even ****ing go there okay. Go play "hijack a thread" some ****ing-where else. You know I'm getting tired of people like you coming in and ****ing up a thread with that bull**** about defense spending.
    Dude, you know the government gets raped on what they buy in defense. Boeing makes a freaking killing and they are moving much of their engineering development to fomer Soviet bloc states in order to get cheaper engineers and increase their profit margin, while putting Americans out of work. So do not defend DoD like it is Mother Theresa.

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    Re: Obama Threatens to Veto His Own Defense Bill Over F-22 Funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    So you're in favor of wasting taxpayer money just to keep people on the government payroll?



    It sounds like military experts are saying that this is obsolete and the F-35 is better. The pilots can be retrained for the new aircraft.
    The F-22 is obsolete??? Would you like to explain that? Stop the trolling about keeping people on govt payroll. That is NOT where the money is going, if you knew anything about the govt. The two fighter serve different roles.
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