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    UK cuts Israel weapons contracts

    BBC NEWS | Middle East | UK cuts Israel weapons contracts

    The UK has revoked five export licences for equipment to the Israeli navy because of actions during Israel's Operation Cast Lead in Gaza this year.

    The British Foreign office said the exports would now contravene its criteria for arms sales, but denied that it had imposed a partial embargo.

    The UK says it does not sell weapons which might be used for internal repression or external aggression.

    Israel says its troops complied fully with international law during missions.

    The 22-day operation which ended on 18 January has been widely condemned as disproportionate by critics.
    Under pressure from Amnesty International and other groups, the UK has basically accused Israel of using their weapons to kill Palestinians in the Gaza strip, which is in violation of the terms of the agreements. Israel maintains that they never used the weapons in violation, yet the UK has still placed what many are calling a weapons embargo, on Israel. Thoughts?

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    Re: UK cuts Israel weapons contracts

    Israel doesn't rely much on UK weapons last I checked.
    We even rely more on German and French made weapons than British ones.

    What I do find disturbing is the way the UK so easily submits to the claims of propaganda organizations.
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    Re: UK cuts Israel weapons contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    What I do find disturbing is the way the UK so easily submits to the claims of propaganda organizations.
    The UK, in its zeal to be tolerant, has lost its historic soul.

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    Re: UK cuts Israel weapons contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The UK, in its zeal to be tolerant, has lost its historic soul.
    Was our historical soul even that Brilliant? We were one of the most brutal and murderous world powers in history. After all we did invent the concentration camp in the Boer war.

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    Re: UK cuts Israel weapons contracts

    Don't feel too bad Israel, the UK can not even provide the appropriate arms for her own soldiers in Afghanistan, especially helicopters.

    None the less, those **** heads Hamas and Hezbollah need to know the US will never, EVER let them acheive any kind of military parity with Israel.

    The fundementalist Islamic world has a way of turning reality into a dream, and then a nightmare.
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    Re: UK cuts Israel weapons contracts

    My favorite quote,

    Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman told Israeli public radio: "We've had many embargoes in the past... We can manage. This shouldn't bother us."
    I think that says it all in regards to Israel's feelings about this. Certainly Israel builds and develops it's own weapons, and I would venture that the U.S. is the number one provider of weapons to Israel. So ultimately, I would say this will amount to nothing.

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    Re: UK cuts Israel weapons contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Was our historical soul even that Brilliant? We were one of the most brutal and murderous world powers in history. After all we did invent the concentration camp in the Boer war.
    Actually, you were brilliant. Unlike a lot of the European powers, the Brits at least laid a foundation for democracy wherever they colonized. If you look at their former colonies, they are all, for the most part, stable and democratic. More than I can say for any European nation.

    That you even have to ask this question, Red Dave, is sad.

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    Re: UK cuts Israel weapons contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    My favorite quote,



    I think that says it all in regards to Israel's feelings about this. Certainly Israel builds and develops it's own weapons, and I would venture that the U.S. is the number one provider of weapons to Israel. So ultimately, I would say this will amount to nothing.
    I think it is more the principle of the thing that I find troubling. Moral equivalency is something that people need to examine, skeptically, and reject, as a philosophy. Some morality is simply better than other morality. The UK used to understand this, and that appears to have been lost to a need to appear "tolerant."

    Tolerance is overrated, in my estimation. There are some things that shouldn't be tolerated by civilized people.

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    Re: UK cuts Israel weapons contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    BBC NEWS | Middle East | UK cuts Israel weapons contracts



    Under pressure from Amnesty International and other groups, the UK has basically accused Israel of using their weapons to kill Palestinians in the Gaza strip, which is in violation of the terms of the agreements. Israel maintains that they never used the weapons in violation, yet the UK has still placed what many are calling a weapons embargo, on Israel. Thoughts?
    Amnesty International has an agenda, and it isn't necessarily reducing world violence. It is only about pressuring western style democracies and looking the other way for the most part when the violence arises from other sources. They indulge in a few faux criticisms of human rights violations in the Islamic world, but these are intended as window dressing and nothing more.

    That the U.K. would succumb to such pressure is no surprise. They cater to Arab views to an enormous degree, and their level of animosity towards Israel is so widespread and of such magnitude in the U.K. that selling them anything would be wildly unpopular.
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    Re: UK cuts Israel weapons contracts

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Actually, you were brilliant. Unlike a lot of the European powers, the Brits at least laid a foundation for democracy wherever they colonized. If you look at their former colonies, they are all, for the most part, stable and democratic. More than I can say for any European nation.

    That you even have to ask this question, Red Dave, is sad.
    Correct.
    And very much unlike the Spanish, who simply took everything from the South-American colonies and became one of the all-time richest nations thanks to those colonies' treasures.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

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