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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The GOP could find a paleo-conservative without all the baggage (I don't even buy Palin being that form of conservative, she runs her mouth about it, but there's relatively little to back it up besides half a governorship) and more intelligent and able to better handle the press. I don't see why people are all caught up with this woman when in most likelihood, there could be better candidates out there.
    Fact is there aren't that many good candidates out there. Look at Obama's cabinet. A lot of those guys have been around, and around.

    To find someone who can get the votes is very tricky. The media didn't like her, so this tells me it's because they saw someone who is intelligent and a quick learner.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    She should have finished her term first. Because now she will be branded as a quitter,someone who quits when the going gets tough, or quits when something better comes along(like leaving office to pursue bigger goals).
    She's not a quitter. She just did the right thing. Quitting shouldn't bother her chances. She's young.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    She's not a quitter. She just did the right thing. Quitting shouldn't bother her chances. She's young.
    I'm afraid her opponents and many others won't see it that way and it does give them quite a bit of ammo. If she does end up going for a Presidential run it will most definitely come back to haunt her and could have a huge impact.

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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Who decides which criticisms are legitimate? If it's Triad, he considers her a goddess and worships at her feet, suckling on her little toes. He would tolerate no criticism of the Sarahlicious.
    There, there, work on those thighs, get a makeover, a new wardrobe and some therapy for that jealousy-inspired misdirected anger and one day you might be somebody's goddess, or at least a woodsprite.

    In future you might want to avoid confusing admiration with worship.

    While opinions on the subject vary wildly, if one needs to have concepts like "legitiamte criticisim" explained to one, one is ill advised to comment upon political issues.

    In my humble, and completly admirable and correct opinion.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    Fact is there aren't that many good candidates out there. Look at Obama's cabinet. A lot of those guys have been around, and around.

    To find someone who can get the votes is very tricky. The media didn't like her, so this tells me it's because they saw someone who is intelligent and a quick learner.
    I think people don't want to look hard. Obama is full of the standard sorts of guys. How some of those people are allowed near positions of power, I'll never know. But it's the maintaining of the inner circle basically. These people have been there, and since they have been there they will be called on to continue to be there. I don't really base anything off of Obama since he is a Chicago politician.

    And I think the media loves Palin. I've maybe on a handful of occasions heard her speak coherently. The rest of the time, it's like her resignation speech in which you're sitting there thinking "What the hell is she talking about?". The press loves to quote her, you don't have to do anything to make fun of the quote; it's self-fulfilling. I wouldn't describe Palin as intelligent and a quick learner. Honestly, she doesn't come off as either of those things, which is why I think the GOP would best be served by investing some time and effort looking for someone else.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    Fact is there aren't that many good candidates out there. Look at Obama's cabinet. A lot of those guys have been around, and around.
    The issue is name recognition, not ability. There are plenty of second tier congresscritters who are, in fact, quite competent, but represent rural or suburban areas/states where they don't get as much name recognition as the urban critters.

    Olene Walker, for instance, from Utah, is quite competent, and a gutsy female conservative. You hardly ever hear her name, because Utah is off the radar for many Americans.

    To find someone who can get the votes is very tricky. The media didn't like her, so this tells me it's because they saw someone who is intelligent and a quick learner.
    I think there are two issues. First, I think the media was blindsided by her. They are prone to a special prejudice that believes that if something is happening off of their radar, it must not be good. Since their radar only extends to Manhattan and the beltway of DC, it is limited.

    The fact that Palin was an outsider, true, did not endear her to the media. However, she has enough personality and charm that she could have won them over, if she'd been given the opportunity.

    Having said that, though, the media did point out some very major credibility issues with Palin that are worthy of consideration, and they weren't entirely unjustified.

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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    There, there, work on those thighs, get a makeover, a new wardrobe and some therapy for that jealousy-inspired misdirected anger and one day you might be somebody's goddess, or at least a woodsprite.

    In future you might want to avoid confusing admiration with worship.
    Admiration is earned. Worship is unthinking. Triad falls into the latter category.

    I have no desire to be worshipped, because any worthy object of my affection would critically evaluate me and think about me in a rational way. Aka, he would ADMIRE me for my merits, versus worshipping me mindlessly. The adoration of the hopelessly stupid isn't worth much. The admiration of an honorable man is worth a great deal.

    While opinions on the subject vary wildly, if one needs to have concepts like "legitiamte criticisim" explained to one, one is ill advised to comment upon political issues.
    I think anyone here would need the term "legitiamte criticisim" defined. What is that, pig latin?
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 07-14-09 at 12:43 PM.

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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And I think the media loves Palin. I've maybe on a handful of occasions heard her speak coherently. The rest of the time, it's like her resignation speech in which you're sitting there thinking "What the hell is she talking about?". The press loves to quote her, you don't have to do anything to make fun of the quote; it's self-fulfilling. I wouldn't describe Palin as intelligent and a quick learner. Honestly, she doesn't come off as either of those things, which is why I think the GOP would best be served by investing some time and effort looking for someone else.
    I think that's the problem for many of us. I very much liked her from the get-go, and everything that I read about her track record in Alaska made me like her even more. It was her own words and actions that alienated me.

    I'm a bright person, and I'm intellectually curious, and I'm sorry, I simply cannot vote for someone who knows less about world affairs than I do. It's disheartening.

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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn Monroe View Post
    She's not a quitter. She just did the right thing. Quitting shouldn't bother her chances. She's young.
    Resigning is just a formal way of saying you quit. The I didn't want to be a lame duck excuse will not work. The only thing the left has to do is portray he in a ad quitting for a better deal, quitting because it got to tough for her or even quitting when the next big disaster comes up. The running on she has more experience than her other opponent running **** will not work for this time because she quit. The dems will run a ad saying "When _____ faced adversity he didn't quit". The liberal media hates Palin, they will use the fact she flip flopped on the so called bridge to nowhere, McRino only picked her because she is a woman, but mostly they will use the fact she resigned/quit against her
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I'm afraid her opponents and many others won't see it that way and it does give them quite a bit of ammo. If she does end up going for a Presidential run it will most definitely come back to haunt her and could have a huge impact.
    The Republican's need to back her up, and many times they don't back up their own. They speak the truth and they lose votes.

    She quit because it was costing Alaska too much to keep her there, and because her kids were being abused. I think she'll be forgiven for quitting for those reasons.
    "It's not that I'm afraid to die, I just don't want to be there when it happens." Woody Allen.

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