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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    That would leave the Department of Education, though.

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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Sarah hears them better and more frequently than most. She has her god radar tuned right in.
    And we all see how great it worked out the last time we had a President with a dedicated line to Jesus.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Tell us what FACTUAL things religion has proven true. I bet I can list more facts from science than you can facts from religion.
    I'm not sure if you want to compare those lists...LOL!!! Science has been wrong about a buncha stuff.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That would leave the Department of Education, though.
    No science or math there!
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not sure if you want to compare those lists...LOL!!! Science has been wrong about a buncha stuff.
    Sure it has, however, it has been proven right and factual FAR more than religon has.

    I ask again, what has religion proved as FACT from religion?

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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    If you separated science from state you would need to shut down the military. And NASA. And the FDA. And the CIA. And the NSA. And the FBI. Wait, I'm starting to like this idea!
    While some of that is ok, I'm fine with government funding of scientific research. Our economy is technology based now, so we need to continue to develop technologies of many flavors. You can only do that through new understandings of base science, and the funding of base science is not something which the private sector (since we got rid of monopolies) can not handle. Some could handle the money, but none could handle the time scale, only the government has that ability (decades maybe even, a company can't support something which the base of which takes 10 years to figure out). Plus there's all sorts of good stuff which comes from science and its study, it can't be divorced from government. The military is a necessity, and the government is specifically charged with it as well. Not only authorizing it the ability of a military, but demanding they provide for the common defense; which can only be accomplished by continual refinement and advancement of our military's hardware and capabilities. Though, as you point out with things such as the CIA and NSA, the government can go too far and necessarily needs to be restricted in its use of science and technology against its own People.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Sure it has, however, it has been proven right and factual FAR more than religon has.

    I ask again, what has religion proved as FACT from religion?
    Also note that over time science gets more and more right and keeps advancing with more and more discoveries. The same cannot be said about invisible sky people who chat with Sarah Palin.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm not sure if you want to compare those lists...LOL!!! Science has been wrong about a buncha stuff.
    You think religion got us high rises, penicillin, pasteurization, inoculations, etc? Did religion extend the life span of the human? Has humanity only grown through advancement in religion? Or is the very base of our nature that of science? Have we come this far in such a short amount of time, been to the moon, sent probes into space, understand some of the basics of nature, because we are inclined towards science and have pursued it aggressively ever since we came out of our caves. Hell even then. Most animals don't know how to make a spear, and certainly didn't learn how to make a sling for one in order to take down huge prey.

    You want to say "which one is wrong more", well how about "which one is right more" or "which one has advanced and benefited the human race more".
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    I don't know many republicans that support Olympia Snowe. She's been elected in a very liberal state. A state that isn't liberal because it's avante guard. Maine is liberal because it's uneducated north of Portland.
    I see you have no idea about the political climate in Maine. It's even more obvious that you are basing your criticism on 1 vote that both Snowe and Collins crossed the aisle in support of. They aren't RINO's, but if you knew anything about their voting record you would know that. They are moderate Republicans, and they both have an approval rating of around 70%.

    The Republican party isn't happy with them right now because they don't buy into their "You're for us or you're against us" mentality. The problem for the RNC in dealing with them is there isn't any way to unseat them because a comfortable majority of voters in Maine have got the representation we want, and there isn't a damn thing the party can do to change it.

    Though we are known as a liberal state we are also known for being Independent voters. Party affiliation don't play as big a role in our state as you are suggesting. We have had 2 successful Independent governors, so party affiliation isn't a given in the voting booth.

    As for people being uneducated north of Portland, iF don't know anything about politics in Maine, you obviously don't know anything about how educated we are.

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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    While some of that is ok, I'm fine with government funding of scientific research. Our economy is technology based now, so we need to continue to develop technologies of many flavors. You can only do that through new understandings of base science, and the funding of base science is not something which the private sector (since we got rid of monopolies) can not handle. Some could handle the money, but none could handle the time scale, only the government has that ability (decades maybe even, a company can't support something which the base of which takes 10 years to figure out). Plus there's all sorts of good stuff which comes from science and its study, it can't be divorced from government. The military is a necessity, and the government is specifically charged with it as well. Not only authorizing it the ability of a military, but demanding they provide for the common defense; which can only be accomplished by continual refinement and advancement of our military's hardware and capabilities. Though, as you point out with things such as the CIA and NSA, the government can go too far and necessarily needs to be restricted in its use of science and technology against its own People.
    I support government funded research, too. Not all of it, but in principle I support it. A lot of discoveries in the military and NASA have been put to civilian, private use. Funding medical research has greatly increased the time it's taken to treat or cure tons of diseases.
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