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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I enver challenged your patriotism, before you devalued my contribution to this country. Only a fair weather patriot would devalue another citizen's vote, the way you did.
    I didn't see any devaluing of a vote. What was said is that the GOP is going to have to recapture lost votes in order to consistently be able to win elections, espeically on the national level. Because of the departure from conservative values and political platforms undergone by the GOP, they lost votes to maybe the Democrats, third parties, and/or apathy. Those lost votes have taken down the number of absolute votes the GOP has traditionally gathered to such an extent as to allow the Democratic Party to have a much easier time winning elections as they can then aggregate enough absolute votes to win an election. Thus the Republican party has to recapture lost votes, it needs to bring up the aggregate number of votes it can obtain to compete with and defeat Democratic nominees. Saying that the GOP needs the vote of the lost voters isn't saying their votes are worth more; but rather that the GOP must increase the number of absolute votes it can aggregate and in order to do that it will be necessary for them to return to traditional conservative platforms to recapture the voters which left it when the GOP abandoned conservative values.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I didn't see any devaluing of a vote. What was said is that the GOP is going to have to recapture lost votes in order to consistently be able to win elections, espeically on the national level. Because of the departure from conservative values and political platforms undergone by the GOP, they lost votes to maybe the Democrats, third parties, and/or apathy. Those lost votes have taken down the number of absolute votes the GOP has traditionally gathered to such an extent as to allow the Democratic Party to have a much easier time winning elections as they can then aggregate enough absolute votes to win an election. Thus the Republican party has to recapture lost votes, it needs to bring up the aggregate number of votes it can obtain to compete with and defeat Democratic nominees. Saying that the GOP needs the vote of the lost voters isn't saying their votes are worth more; but rather that the GOP must increase the number of absolute votes it can aggregate and in order to do that it will be necessary for them to return to traditional conservative platforms to recapture the voters which left it when the GOP abandoned conservative values.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I didn't see any devaluing of a vote. What was said is that the GOP is going to have to recapture lost votes in order to consistently be able to win elections, espeically on the national level. Because of the departure from conservative values and political platforms undergone by the GOP, they lost votes to maybe the Democrats, third parties, and/or apathy. Those lost votes have taken down the number of absolute votes the GOP has traditionally gathered to such an extent as to allow the Democratic Party to have a much easier time winning elections as they can then aggregate enough absolute votes to win an election. Thus the Republican party has to recapture lost votes, it needs to bring up the aggregate number of votes it can obtain to compete with and defeat Democratic nominees. Saying that the GOP needs the vote of the lost voters isn't saying their votes are worth more; but rather that the GOP must increase the number of absolute votes it can aggregate and in order to do that it will be necessary for them to return to traditional conservative platforms to recapture the voters which left it when the GOP abandoned conservative values.
    Of course someone whose called me a liar on multiple occasions is going to take advantage of this situation. Right? You still think that science and religion are two different things.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course someone whose called me a liar on multiple occasions is going to take advantage of this situation. Right? You still think that science and religion are two different things.
    HAHAHAHA, science and religion are two different things.

    That post explained very clearly why what was said was not a devaluation of a vote. Clearly states it, if you read it objectively you'd see that there was no accusation of one's vote being worth less than another. But it seems like, as per usual, you'd rather not read and instead write a one line dismissive post. Well, I tried; but you seem to wish to be stubborn as a mule on this one. Your loss.
    Last edited by Ikari; 07-13-09 at 05:02 PM.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Right? You still think that science and religion are two different things.
    Huh? One is totally made up. That would be a big difference right there.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Huh? One is totally made up. That would be a big difference right there.
    Don't get him started on that one. He's an anti-scientist it seems and wishes to fully purge science from the government despite the fact that it would ruin the country.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Don't get him started on that one. He's an anti-scientist it seems and wishes to fully purge science from the government despite the fact that it would ruin the country.
    I'm not anti-science. I'm anti-basing policy decisions and passing legislation based on junk science.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Don't get him started on that one. He's an anti-scientist it seems and wishes to fully purge science from the government despite the fact that it would ruin the country.
    Well, if you purged science would Congress just float away? Gravity is science after all. I like the idea.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by stekim View Post
    Well, if you purged science would Congress just float away? Gravity is science after all. I like the idea.
    Hahah...no. Ignoring science doesn't distract from reality unfortunately. Damned physics.
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    Re: Palin says she's not leaving politics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm anti-basing policy decisions and passing legislation based on junk science.
    And of course it's junk science, because you say so.

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