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    Re: Cheney linked to concealment of CIA briefings

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Even if they did, it wouldn't make anything that happened before the revision an ex post facto violation.
    Well, not legally. But I can see it being recorded in history that various events before such a change caused the change to be made...
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    Re: Cheney linked to concealment of CIA briefings

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Well, not legally. But I can see it being recorded in history that various events before such a change caused the change to be made...
    Wouldn't that be true though? Sorry, I dunno really whether or not you're implying that it would be a bad thing...

    I'll be really, really impressed if anyone ever get punished over this stuff.. But still, isn't the suggestion, and the suspicion, enough to further compound people's almost universally damning opinions of Bush/Cheney? (in an international rather than national sense - I know some Americans think Bush was pretty good). Regardless of what Americans make of it all, most of the rest of us are probably going to pass their own judgement whether or not any law changes or rappearances of any real evidence actually take place.
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    This is so pathetic, and so typical of Democrats.

    Let's see, the economy is growing worse by the minute, unemployment is about to exceed 10 percent (it already has, but Obama is cooking the numbers), California is bankrupt, Gitmo isn't going anywhere, the stimulus isn't working, nationized healthcare is not striking a cord with people, approval numbers are dropping.....

    It's time for a diversionary tactic! Let's start bitching about Bush and Cheney again. Yeah!

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    Re: Cheney linked to concealment of CIA briefings

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Exactly, as far as I know the constitution tasks the executive branch with answering to the legislative branch..

    I'd like to see what the constitutionalists will say on this one.
    That the Executive branch does not answer to the legislative branch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That the Executive branch does not answer to the legislative branch?
    I'm still waiting for him to cite the sections in the Constitution that support his assertion.
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    Re: Cheney linked to concealment of CIA briefings

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This is so pathetic, and so typical of Democrats.

    Let's see, the economy is growing worse by the minute, unemployment is about to exceed 10 percent (it already has, but Obama is cooking the numbers), California is bankrupt, Gitmo isn't going anywhere, the stimulus isn't working, nationized healthcare is not striking a cord with people, approval numbers are dropping.....

    It's time for a diversionary tactic! Let's start bitching about Bush and Cheney again. Yeah!
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    Re: Cheney linked to concealment of CIA briefings

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They have to play some slight of hand so they're not rode out of town on a rail.
    And if they're right?

    Is the correct response to this, "Oh well it's all in the past now, we have OTHER crap that we've gt ourselves into now (AMERICANS, none of this bi-partisan bollocks) , so let's just forget about it!" ? I dunno aout how the American people feel, but I don't think people in the rest of the world like it when their leaders aren't held accountable for bad things that they do.

    Seeing as America is consantly up crap creek in one way or another these days, won't EVERY attempt at settling stuff that happened in the past be seen as 'diversionary tactics'? Surely that's the premise that leaders will be free to work with in the future if this sort of stuff doesn't get thoroughly investigated now: "Let's do what we want, and then the problems that get caused by it later will just overshadow whatever we did and everyoe will forget about it! Sweet!"
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    Re: Cheney linked to concealment of CIA briefings

    I think some folks might want to read this new article,

    Congress Authorized CIA to Develop Secret Al Qaeda Plan, Former Official Says - Political News - FOXNews.com

    From the Article,

    "This was not a program. It never began," the former official said. "The authority was given by Congress to develop this idea. ... There was no need to brief it. It wasn't a reality."

    The former intelligence official suggested House Democrats made the demand for the sake of providing Pelosi political cover.

    "If you notice, Director Panetta briefed both (the Senate and House) intelligence committees on the same day ... about the same issue. Did you hear anyone from the Senate intelligence committee say anything about it?"

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